shuning Wrote:Why can't rms just host this on their own test sever?

Antimind Wrote:Peeps seem to have missed the entire point of my post (or have no clue how these things work). 9 times of out 10 if a server hosts a tourney NOTHING takes place on the ACTUAL server. The host will set up a SEPERATE server and accounts are ONLY given to those participating. That server is used for team practices and the actual tournies themselves. Gears are provided from lists or npcs to each team as an equal opportunity thing. Everyone has access to the same stuff and the same restrictions on it. VERY rarely do those involved in the tourney from outside the host server ever actually check out or play on the host server... It's just about the prizes. Sometimes cash, sometimes it's something mutually agreed upon by all participants' home server GMs (gear packs, MVP cards, and the like).

The alternative is the less popular type of tourney. That one is held on the actual server and incoming teams are given gear they regularly use on their home servers. This very well could mean GMs handing MVP cards and god items that don't exist here to incoming players for a tourney.

Either option isn't very good for the server itself. At least not to draw players to play on heRO. Tournies are just good ways to get a server name out there. Unfortunately when it comes to competition for WoE and the like heRO lacks the things that do draw players. No BGs, no BG consumables, lack of donation gears, the fact that there are wings, and so on. The rates too. Most of the hardcore WoE pop has "paid their dues" grinding it out. A lot of people just aren't willing to do that much anymore. They usually play on 50x rates at lowest.

Having an incoming guild package to give ENTIRE incoming guilds basic WoE gear and supplies would prolly draw people. A lot of servers offer it now. They either have predetermined lists of things they give per guild and per member or have a "shop" set up and give each person so many credits to purchase from a list of things. Typical items are cranial valks, feather berets, x amount of hydra cards, marc, and the like. I'm pretty sure most of the population and the GMs would be against handing packages like that out to players just arriving.

Namine Wrote:you are probably better off starting a new server instead of forcing heRO to be something that it never tried to be for the last 5 years.

Namine Wrote:You really can't win it all.

By having a server that is 5/5/3 to begin with, people who join have a certain mentality of what they are expecting already and choose a server with appropriate rates... by doing what you said, you are probably better off starting a new server instead of forcing heRO to be something that it never tried to be for the last 5 years. It'll have a hard time to wash off certain labels, deal with players who *want* that 5/5/3 long environment, and like you said, those who are worn out from any sort of grind and prefer everything there already will probably head to a new server with high rates or everything is given by shops already. With all that in mind, you're probably better off starting a new side server for heRO or whatever if you think the GMs really ought to do those stuff.

Namine Wrote:@Xev (don't want to quote that entire thing lol)

Thus more the reason why I only say heRO will grow naturally if we focus on the basic stuff: events at holiday season, daily events, content updates, improved interface via client someday, having a direction of what's happening, catching up-to-date with modern MMO general practices and other general good practices instances.

Namine Wrote:PS: There you go circe, I specified content update and not "svn update" =P