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RE:??God Poring Card - Ultima_Pi - 12-13-2012
Individual Card Combos:
God Poring Card [Shoes] -> This card does nothing alone.
This card automatically sucks, just because it does nothing alone
+ Poring [Armor] -> Perfect Dodge +4, Immune to Freeze
Perfect Dodge is garbage in WoE. Freeze is nice, but Marc is infinitely easier to farm and hunt. Angeling + God Poring = Immune to Freeze was what I initially interpreted, which would have been pretty awesome. You could pretty much forgive the loss of Shoe card for reduction from everything but Shadow and Neutral. But that's out the window. Also, Marc + Verit/Firelock Soldier/Green Ferus/Matyr/etc.
+ Poporing [Accessory]-> Enables use of Level 1 Recovery.
Not a terrible skill to have in WoE, but I just lost Zerom/Horong/etc and my Shoe card. Also, who has the time to use Detox?
+ Marin [Accessory] -> +5% ASPD, -10% Aftercast delay
Hey Ed, do you still have that Marin Orleans Glove? It's useful now! Not sure if the ASPD is enough. Aftercast is nice, though not sure if I want to sacrifice Shoe card.
+ Santa Poring [Weapon]-> +20% Damage on Demi-Humans
Only special people run around in WoE with Bathory Armor. So that leaves what.... Bathories, AKs, and.... Raydrics? None of those are particularly hard to kill anyways.
+ Drop [Weapon] -> +20% Damage on Demi-Humans
Too bad +20% Damage doesn't work for High Wizards. First guy to successfully pull off Dagger HW in WoE gets a cookie
+ Mastering [Garment] -> Flee Rate +20
What flee (WoE)?
+ Arc Angeling [Headgear] -> All Stats +1
You're kidding right? I just lose my shoe card for this crap?
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[Full Combo]:
[Armor] Poring OR Angeling
[Accessory] Marin AND Poporing
[Weapon] Santa Poring OR Drops, will stack additively
[Garment] Mastering OR Hollow Poring
[Shoes] God Poring
1 Armor, 2 Accessories, 1 Weapon, 1 Shoe, 1 Garment
+15% Resistance from Neutral Property Attacks
+15% HP
+15% SP
+3 All Stats
+10% Resistance from Demi-Humans
Poring (because you need the freaking Freeze Immunity)
Marin, Poporing (because it's required)
Drops (because Santa Poring is stupid in WoE, and most classes could use some Dex)
Hollow Poring (because Flee is stupid in WoE)
Plusle:
So, we finally regain some normal WoE card effects.
We get our HP Shoe Card, a gimpy Raydric (Harpy, for those who know their cards), Marc (because it's in the individual combos), and Hydras back.
As an extra bonus, we get even more HP from Hollow Poring and some DemiHuman resistance from out of nowhere!
Minun:
+3 all stats is something that's only truly effective if you reset around it. Nobody wants to spam resets just for WoE.
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Individual Cards:
[Armor] Angeling -> Armor becomes Holy Level 1
[Armor] Poring -> Luck +2, Perfect Dodge +1, Combine with Mastering for Flee +18
Angeling + Freeze Immune would've been very nice. Rather unfortunately, Poring sucks, especially since I'm not comboing with Mastering. I'd rather have more HP in PvM anyways, since Flee gets more useless the higher level mosters you fight. Perfect Dodge is more of a funsies build than a srsbznz build.
[Accessory] Poporing ->Enable use of Level 1 Detoxify
[Accessory] Marin -> Add a chance of gaining 'Jellopy or Large Jellopy' each time a monster is killed.
Panacea/Green Potion/Green Herb > Detoxify. I don't think you can get WoE'rs to drop Jellopies when they die.
[Weapon] Drops -> Dex +1
[Weapon] Santa Poring -> Increase damage on Shadow Property +20%
Drops has always been a nice card for Wizzies. But again, Wizzies don't get the damage bonus. Santa Poring makes me want to see if I can one shot Bathories with this combo.
[Garment] Mastering -> Luck +1, Combine with Poring for Flee +18
[Garment] Hollow Poring -> Max HP +1000, Max SP +100
Poor Mastering. Hollow Poring sounds nice, but I think the summons are limited (finite per account) somehow, I forgot what you need to do.
[Headgear] Arc Angeling -> Max HP +300, If Base Luck >= 77, HP/SP Recovery Rate +100%
Are you serious.
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Further Notes:
Arc Angeling is not part of the full set bonus
God Poring + Hollow Poring = No bonuses
God Poring + Angeling = No bonuses (azote edited)
I see what you did there.
GM-Azote Wrote:How would you compare combo balance for different classes?
Any class is getting overpowered because of...?
Any class will never use it because of...?
Wizzies/Magic Ninjas get shafted 'cause they can't use the Damage bonuses. Everyone else that actually wants to WoE seriously already has the "standard" card equivalents of this combo.
No. Nobody is OP'd with this combo. "Standard" card equivalents again.
Wizzies/Magic Ninjas. See above.
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The combo doesn't suck, but it's not OP'd, and and the only HUGE difference between this combo and "standard" equivalents is the HP from Hollow Poring and the DemiHuman resistance.
Given my choice of cards for the combo, you need 2 MvP cards to be slightly above "standard". Your alternatives are crap (not your fault though). Maybe make some new custom cards for your 298374983475 new porings not sucky, and use those instead of the current ones.
RE: God Poring Card - Seth~ - 12-13-2012
wow. Ultima_Pi is not happy. Due to wall of text in other post < edit < why not use god poring card more so in new/custom monster cards. aka I suggest back to drawing board. As Ultima implied (i think).
RE: God Poring Card - GM-Azote - 12-17-2012
The demi human resistance is not out of nowhere. If you compare card by card, you get the picture.
Raydric 20% neutral resistance
This combo, 15% neutral resistance + 5% demi-human resistance
Variant Shoes, 20% health points, 20% spirit points
This combo, 15% health points, 15% spirit points, 5% demi-human resistance
Someone could, however, use wool scarf + tidal to get an additional 10% health points.
This card will not be released "as is".
RE: God Poring Card - Kiwis - 12-20-2012
Ultima_Pi has opened my eyes. It really does seem underpowered to me now :D
Unlike most other mvp cards, it doesn't seem very special. Just reminds me of specific-class card sets. Don't think much will use it. If they do get it by luck, its price pattern will prolly be like hydro card's - rare but has some very lame effects :s
RE:??God Poring Card - Ultima_Pi - 12-20-2012
GM-Azote Wrote:The demi human resistance is not out of nowhere. If you compare card by card, you get the picture.
Raydric 20% neutral resistance
This combo, 15% neutral resistance + 5% demi-human resistance
Variant Shoes, 20% health points, 20% spirit points
This combo, 15% health points, 15% spirit points, 5% demi-human resistance
Someone could, however, use wool scarf + tidal to get an additional 10% health points.
This card will not be released "as is".
This is why I wanted clarification on individual and full combos.
+10% Demi Human resist "comes out of nowhere" because it's not specified as an individual combo or comes from any of the required cards naturally. You need to have the full set to get it.
...Right?
And I totally forgot that Wools/Tidals existed. And now that I think about it, Diabolus Mant/Boots.
Still not sure I want to farm 2 MVP cards though.
RE: God Poring Card - The Legendary Joe - 12-30-2012
I dunno, MAYBE in the rare case that a Hwiz is actually ballsy/idiotic enough to fight a GTB user in woe, that extra 20% against demi humans would do good with magic crasher as % modifiers do actually affect it. (lulz)
Personally though even if I was a Hwiz fighting a GTB user, I wouldn't be looking to deal outright damage, i'd want to use status weapons and weapon/armor breaking daggers to piss them off with Magic crasher.
But then again, I remember seeing people in woe gear for damage with shield boomerang (dang Behemoth and their linked Pallies) when they shoulda been gearing for dehibilitation and made it semi-effective against nublets.