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RE: heRO Wiki - Loki - 07-30-2008
G?n?ral_Argos Wrote:...And people will have to scroll all the way to find what they want to know on a 100+ post thread.
No krim. The protected page would have the ranges. While people would put what they feel is the range in the discussion area.
That's why there's a discussion page. That way people can mess that up all they want so the front page with the info is more organized and people won't have to "scroll all the way to find what they want".
RE: heRO Wiki - Général_Argos - 07-30-2008
---I corrected my post... and you ninja posted before I was done. xD
RE: heRO Wiki - Loki - 07-30-2008
Lol that's hardly a correction. We would do nothing more than edit the protected page with the ranges the players would say they see. It would be the players dictating it, the GMs would just be the editors
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RE: heRO Wiki - Général_Argos - 07-30-2008
Ok, but why choosing Number A instead of Number B from people's suggestions for the official price range? Gms will have to choose, in the end. Thats what I meant. I like way more my idea of an average formula >_>
RE: heRO Wiki - Loki - 07-30-2008
Wouldn't really be choosing would be just posting Number A~Number B.
RE: heRO Wiki - GM-Pandora - 07-30-2008
Krim likes to complain.
I don't think Wiki allows for that kind of suggestion (making an average with everyone's input and retaining only 80% and whatnot). It's a Wiki, not a miracle worker.
RE: heRO Wiki - Kadar - 07-30-2008
It's still a page just like any other and a solution could be coded in to do an averaging function if someone had the know-how or dedication to do it.??I would rather see a script which pulls merch prices than something that people have to manually edit the wiki page for.
It's certainly not impossible to make what Krim described but it is out of reach at the moment. Of course even if something averaged the prices based on inputs people would start putting really high numbers or low numbers to skew the average towards the number they want. Unless we had a script to scour the merchants vending I don't really see a price range page as all that accurate or unbiased.
RE: heRO Wiki - GM-Ayu - 07-30-2008
I'm against any form of "official prices" even if it is a range or opinion governed or whatever.
The reason for it is that once stated as the iron law, the prices will never change ever again. Prices may not go up, but prices won't be going down either. Merchants are always out to make the most possible, and if there is such a thing as "official price wiki" then merchants have plenty of excuses to keep prices high even though supply has increased already.
Players ought to have a "feel" of the economy and be able to judge themselves of what is an acceptable price and what is not. Many items worth differently to different people, so let them decide what an item is worth. If you don't "know" the economy yet, cruise Prontera merchants more often, read main and see where people like to train their characters a lot, and you can have a very good estimate at what items are in abundance and what is not.
Part of the reason why some players are wealthy is not because they play a lot every day. Sometimes they know the economy and can buy/resale for better prices. They also know what equipments, items and cards are worth hunting to get the best deals. Plenty of people walk in to Great Fairy Auction spending a few mil, and one week later generated another 5 mil through reselling.
A page that dictates prices are not only biased (and thus doesn't solve the current "accuracy problem" with price checks), but prices will become entirely stagnant, not to mention kills of the talents of some players who take the effort to learn the economy (and thus become the people who answers price checks) instead of asking what an equipment is worth even though they are in heRO for a year with one or even two trans characters (people who are still selling Elunium at 80k tonight... that is so 3 SvNs ago.)
Let the current free economy system reward the innovative and the people who care to learn the economy.
RE: heRO Wiki - Général_Argos - 07-30-2008
... I changed my mind and now agree with Ayu.
+1
RE: heRO Wiki - Aaronock - 07-30-2008
Thank you Ayu, I was wanting to say something also about the Price Checks but never did.
My stalker makes money through creative use of card hunting, leveling, and mostly farming things other people need from monsters. To tell people concrete prices on some of those items will totally kill what I'm able to do to make money with stalker!
Not that I really NEED the money but I like having it and to be able assist others if the need may arise.
Now if only my prof could make money the same way stalker does...>_>