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Noblity Powerup? - Fruityla - 06-08-2010
As they are now, the nobility gems just aren't worth dumping 25 mil+ into. I mean, why do it when you can get the same exact thing (or better) for a lot cheaper or just by voting? Not to mention most of the other options are better looking.
To elaborate; Almost every option available on the gems can be obtained elsewhere. The unranked gem specifically is no more than an overpriced clone of other midgears. For ranked? You may as well take that money and buy slotted glasses. Plus, both ranked and unranked are going to be beaten by vote 4 points items like Peco Ears and Black Glasses.
What I'm saying is that nobility just doesn't compete with other midgears. A zeny sink doesn't work when you can just go get the same thing or better other places for less. It's sad that I pretty much kick myself every time I play my noble character because I could have saved a bunch of zeny by buying other mids
Yes, I know I whined about the HP and SP options not too long ago. That went well XD Now I think it's time to "power up" the gems overall so they're actually worth going after. Well...as worth going after as they can get with the screwy donate system anyway.
Oh score, my post isn't as long as I thought. That means I have room for an actual suggestion of how to do this.
Now remember that people are dumping 25-100 mil+ into these...and they are CHARACTER BOUND. Slotted Sunnies (50 mil give or take) = Maybe Baron. Yes. The BARON rank is as expensive or more expensive than slotted sunnies
Also remember that the 2 bonuses can't stack.
Prince: 2 Bonuses, 3 DEF, 3MDEF
Duke: 2 Bonuses, 3 DEF, 2MDEF
Count: 2 Bonuses, 2 DEF, 2 MDEF
Baron: 2 Bonuses, 2 DEF, 1 MDEF
Unranked: 2 Bonuses, 1 DEF
._.a That's just an idea. You can post your own if you like. I just want to see Nobility be more worth it.
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Zaratus - 06-08-2010
I disagree with the bonus you can get from those mids you can get by voting, totally deflating good middle headgears. Including Nobility. But that's on another sheet of paper.
I don't really like the idea of getting two boni though =x Twp stats in midheadgear is almost ... or even above slotted mids (if you decide to "waste" them with a non-MvP card). Doesn't feel right to me. Have to admit though that I don't have a better idea in mind.
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Aaronock - 06-08-2010
I suggested at you yesterday that we leave things as they are and possibly add a +50hp and +50sp bonus, this will stack also with the sp or hp bonuses if you pick those for your gem.
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Rankin - 06-08-2010
a bit more than 50 hp O.o
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Aaronock - 06-08-2010
You could probably get away with giving 100 but I don't wanna push it.
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Rankin - 06-08-2010
Thats what i was thinking, was at first 500 but thats like a roda frog in a mid gear xD
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Ngjoko - 06-08-2010
He's right you know, people spend millions of zeny on those stuff just to be out powered by a few V4P gears. A power boost should make the stuff more worthwhile. 100 HP and 50 SP are ok i guess, but why not just add 1 vit and 1 int instead? Surely 1% more max HP and SP is always better than just fixed digits, right?
Edit:
guess i was wrong, fixed digits are better after all. You'll need 10k base HP to get 100 bonus HP.
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Fruityla - 06-08-2010
The HP bonus from the option is gonna give you 100+ (It's % based but to heck if I remember >< I forgot to write it in my guide when I did the math. It gives 250 to my Champ though)
I think the SP option is like 5% :x But I can't remember that either.
And shoulda done this before but here's what the gems do currently;
Prince: 3 Def, 1 Mdef & 2 Bonus
Duke: 3 def & 2 Bonus
Count: 2 def & 2 Bonus
Baron: 1 def & 2 Bonus
Unranked: 1 Def & 1 Bonus
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Ngjoko - 06-08-2010
/Hmm Actually, it seems good already. I mean 3 Def for a mid gear...
RE: Noblity Powerup? - Rankin - 06-08-2010
wtf? where are you getting this 3def from? atm non ranked is one bonus o.o and (i think?) 1 def