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Please help me figure this out. - mhbdr0621 - 07-05-2010

I was thinking what card is good for wind,water,fire,and earth monsters to be slotted on a weapon. Can someone help me to figure this out.? Played RO long long time ago. Cry

RE: Please help me figure this out. - Irxallis - 07-05-2010

It might not be the most efficient way... Say, let's check out Mavka. @mi mavka.

Def 32, Vit 55.
Size: Medium, Race: Plant, Element: Earth3

For simplicity sake I will assume you are using dagger class weapons and you have access to a gladius[3] +5.

Str 92 (with all bonus and buffs), gladius +5:
Code:
ATK = 92 <STR> + pow(9,2) <STR> + 105 <gladius> + 5*5 <gladius upgrade> = max damage: 303
If you want to make an overall anti-earth weapon using cards, you would insert 3* Kaho cards (each gives +20% damage against earth monsters), therefore your gladius would deal 160% damage.
Code:
max damage * card modifiers: 303 * 1.6 = 485 max damage

Now, if you wanted to make a perfect anti-mavka weapon you would input the following cards:

- Kaho card, +20% attack against Earth.
- Scorpion card, +20% attack against Plant
- Skeleton Worker card, +15% attack against Medium and +5 Attack

Code:
max damage * card modifiers: (303 +5 <skel worker>) * 1.2* 1.2* 1.15 = 308*1.656 = 510 max damage
On the other hand from the elemental table we can see Earth3 gets 200% damage from Fire element. Let's assume a fire gladius +5 then (can be forged by a player):

Code:
max damage * element modifiers: 303*2 = 606 max damage
Now, please bear in mind the Fire Gladius is much cheaper than either 3 Kaho cards or especially Kaho+Scorpion+Skel Worker cards.

The fun thing: those stack. So, let's assume we are using anti-earth gladius and we have a fire endow:

Code:
max damage * card modifiers * element modifiers: 303 * 1.6 * 2 = 970 max damage
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In conclusion: I suggest you to get a set of elemental weapons of your class (fire being the most popular) and not worry about cards yet.

An exception: you might want anti-shadow (X* Santa Poring Cards) weapon, because SPC cards are obtained from Gift Boxes and you can get them fairly cheaply. They have a beautiful synergy with Priest's Aspersio (because we get both an elemental modifier and a card modifier) against Shadow/Dark enemies, but other than that I suggest you to keep the cards until you transcend (and use improved weapons which are trans-only) and stick to elemental weapons for now.

Cheaper and can be more efficient, unless you have access to an endow sage.

It is only my suggestion though :-).

Hope the above helps.

RE: Please help me figure this out. - Jens - 07-05-2010

(or you might have saved the time to make this wall of text, just tell him to get elemental weapon set and link him to RMS for weapon cards. Maybe he'd learn to use his own brain instead of having everything served on a silver plate. Also elemental converters are noteworthy too.)

RE: Please help me figure this out. - Irxallis - 07-05-2010

Several reasons why it is worth it:

1) When I explain something I always have my explanations checked by other, more experienced members of this forum. In other words: if it happens that I am wrong someone will point it out and my knowledge will also improve.

2) Most of my knowledge has been accumulated because at one point or another I have asked someone about something and they gave me an answer. I prefer to pass this knowledge and educate people rather than make everyone make trial-and-error analysis, which is often very expensive (say, making a triple kaho gladius +5 ^^')

3) I have now a thread I can refer to when I get a similar question either in game or on forums

4) I gain some kind of credibility/reputation/visibility that way. I prefer to be known as 'the guy who explains stuff and teaches others' rather than 'a person who makes lots of posts in whining section', for example. Credibility is useful, because that way you show you understand how RO as a system works and your voice gets a bit higher weight in balance discussions. Selfish reason? Of course ^__^.

...and honestly, today I have a slower day at work XD.

Btw. if I wanted to make it a complete analysis I would factor in a weeder knife ;-). This imo is the shortest wall of text possible which answers the question which was intended to be asked (ie, 'how to maximize the damage on elemental enemies') rather than answer the question which was asked ('which cards improve the damage on elemental enemies').

RE: Please help me figure this out. - mhbdr0621 - 07-05-2010

Hmm, thank you so much IRXALLIS now I understand. Icon_smile I might be playing as archer. So i think I need a bow than a dagger. hihi anyways, that was a great explanation.