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A> +7 proxy - Child of Bodom - 11-24-2016 04:08 PM

Best offer wins looking for zeny! :D


RE: A> +7 proxy - VietNam90 - 11-28-2016 07:22 AM

Best manto ; it give 103 SP , 7% resis , 10 def
if u add ray it will give 20% resis Neu
total : 20 + 10 + 7 = 37% resis neutral dame


RE: A> +7 proxy - Gojira - 11-28-2016 09:08 AM

(11-28-2016 07:22 AM)VietNam90 Wrote:  Best manto ; it give 103 SP , 7% resis , 10 def
if u add ray it will give 20% resis Neu
total : 20 + 10 + 7 = 37% resis neutral dame

What? LOL


RE: A> +7 proxy - The Roger - 11-28-2016 09:10 AM

(11-28-2016 07:22 AM)VietNam90 Wrote:  total : 20 + 10 + 7 = 37% resis neutral dame
what am i missing


RE: A> +7 proxy - VietNam90 - 11-29-2016 01:16 AM

10 this is Hard defense ,
we have 2 kind def
soft defense and hard defense :
Every refine : give 0.75 hard defense
1 hard defense give 1 % reduce dame physical atk ,
i see Proxy give 5 hard defense , it got refine +7 we see 0.75 x 7 = 5,25
mean 10,25 hard defense by proxy


RE: A> +7 proxy - Gojira - 11-29-2016 05:29 AM

(11-29-2016 01:16 AM)VietNam90 Wrote:  10 this is Hard defense ,
we have 2 kind def
soft defense and hard defense :
Every refine : give 0.75 hard defense
1 hard defense give 1 % reduce dame physical atk ,
i see Proxy give 5 hard defense , it got refine +7 we see 0.75 x 7 = 5,25
mean 10,25 hard defense by proxy

1) Proxy is an all res % which isn't additive to raydrics neutral only % meaning you're getting 7% out of the 80% left (basicly it's 25.6% neutral reduction instead of 27)

2) Hard def =/= neutral resistance, those 2 are completely different matters. Hard def will apply to non critical attacks (including endowed ones) while neutral only applies to one property in general.

;o


RE: A> +7 proxy - Demogorgon - 11-29-2016 11:42 AM

(11-29-2016 05:29 AM)Gojira Wrote:  1) Proxy is an all res % which isn't additive to raydrics neutral only % meaning you're getting 7% out of the 80% left (basicly it's 25.6% neutral reduction instead of 27)

Are you sure about that? RMS Item script lists "bonus2 bSubEle,Ele_Neutral,7" as well as all the other elements respectively, so it should be additive with raydric and the other %ele resist cards


RE: A> +7 proxy - Child of Bodom - 11-29-2016 03:29 PM

Still looking for that opening bid. :D


RE: A> +7 proxy - Haunted - 11-29-2016 05:57 PM

I offer 40million zenies as a starting bid.

do you accept monthly payments on a two-year contract? economy is tough these days =p


RE: A> +7 proxy - VietNam90 - 11-30-2016 02:22 AM

Quote:1) Proxy is an all res % which isn't additive to raydrics neutral only % meaning you're getting 7% out of the 80% left (basicly it's 25.6% neutral reduction instead of 27)

2) Hard def =/= neutral resistance, those 2 are completely different matters. Hard def will apply to non critical attacks (including endowed ones) while neutral only applies to one property in general.

;o
I agree with you about hard defense Non effect with Critical , But it is best defense physical dame ( all physical element dame )
Neutral resis it will useful On PVM
what about 7% resis all = 5,6 % neutral resis
that mean 25,6% neutral resis same diabolus manto 25% ( add ray)
i guess Proxy better when we add Nox card ( reduce 10% long rank and neutral dame )
WE got Non-discussion