opinions

[Fabre]

1.hillwinds should be hatter cards or there needs to be a quests that uses them maybe to make an accesory that does for lightning what siroma and imp does, i would be willing to save up like 20 hillwinds for an item like that. or you know what ever its obvious its a valueless card, it would be nice to have a place to put it or use it.

2.SL needs gear options right now there are 2. but there isnt a variety of gear that could help with the fact they are suffering in this area.

3.since royalty gems i heard today on main need somehow affected to balance the v4p gear, maybe just add a slot to them since they are character bound and costs well enough of time farming and money to make, i see no reason you couldnt just slot it, garantees it keeps its uniqueness over just about any other mid gear you may implement.

4.id like to see an item that give lvl one deluge, since most usable water is in water aligned places, and its hard to find a sage to follow you around casting it, and it would make the elephant hat more fun.??pouring card could do it lol, maybe a triggered ability to cast it, but i think spending the material components and paying sp cost is more fair. it could be a bucket accessory, i'd carry a bucket of water

[Merellis]

1) If you're in the T&D group you will see we're working on more important things then what to do when someone has 20 Hill Winds that aren't used as Hatter Cards.

And as for making them Hatter Cards, wouldn't that break the system? The cards themselves would drop the price of hatters from the sudden flood of them in the market.

2) Seeing as how they can have the highest Single Target Magic Attack followed by buffs that allow them to play a lot of roles I really don't see what else they need access to, especially seeing as how they basically have access to everything a Wizard and Sage would.

3) Because that would be insane. This makes an easy way to make a slotted mid-gear. Yes there is a quest involved, but your asking for a DETERMINED slotted head-gear. Not a random chance.

And on another note, didn't you just have a thread like this earlier?

[Kretzer]

Giving a decent value to an item thats floating around by the dozens on everyone's storage would cause more chaos than good. It would be pretty much giving free zenny to everyone on the server while killing hatter prices.

No comment on soul linkers, I never played them actively.

No, no, no, no, hell no, no, fat, no. Why would I wait months for a couple of sunnies to appear on the market If I can invest the measly sum of 25 mils and get one? + Str Ranked gem with a Vanberk inside? No pls.

[Aaronock]

LOL @ REPOSTED THREAD.
You know my feelings.

Learn more about what SL and SG do in the high end game, its quite a lot. TK class is only extended class to get to play in high end dungeons.

Wanted to note about the magic issue on SL: they are the only class with magical capability to shadow and holy magic. This is UNIQUE to the class that cannot be filled by Wizard or Sage classes and their trans variants.

[Corporal]

I see you've remade this thread, but only after deleting the other one. However, I still don't approve of these ideas.

1) Hillwind should just NOT be hatter. So we'll move onto your next idea. Given the amount of damage you can pull off with imps and siromas, I don't think this should ever be applied to lightning bolt. Think of another idea, and maybe it'll fly. As another note, wind does 150% to water 1 (frozen) while fire only does 125% to earth 1 (stone curse). You can also freeze (multiple) targets at a distance, but you can't stone curse a target at range.

2) SLs can work with what they have. They DO have amazing gears as is, such as survivor's manteaus for amazing survivability and morph sets for really high SP and high int to maintain the damage on their skills as well as unbreakable cast. This is already fine.

3) Definitely no to the slot on the gems. I don't care if they're character bound - they still will devalue regular slotted mids, and put even more strain on the current set of midgears. By giving slotted nobility gems, you're either a)giving an easy +3 str or int on mid, which is already worse than the current V4P gear, or b)dropping to values of glasses[1] or sunglasses[1] by a good 10m or so.

[GM-Pandora]

We had a poll a little while back and players voted no to hillwind being hatter. However, if I ever find an hillwind related gear I'll consider adding the card as an ingredient for it. Thanks for your suggestion.

[Fabre]

1.luvs

2. you have stated the only gear options for SL its the very proof they need gear options, +10vit is useless to a non vit character, and morpheus shouldnt be the only actuall gear usable, not to mention they need better weapons, no other class including SG is as restricted in gear options, other classes have many options including the ability to put together a set custom with cards, i have researched for months and there is no way of doing this with out being weak, compared to morpheus, a set btw that is just a basic gear combo like that of goibne and the the other one.??

3. you cant tell me 166+gold and bouyens and other crap needed for that quest isnt worth a slot, not to mention it makes it worth getting, and the point of the suggestion is to offer an answer to making the gems stand out above any mid gear we may make and implement into the server that is cheap(v4p-are free btw)-bunch of gold and money and stuff-not free.

[Rankin]

3. you cant tell me 166+gold and bouyens and other crap needed for that quest isnt worth a slot, not to mention it makes it worth getting, and the point of the suggestion is to offer an answer to making the gems stand out above any mid gear we may make and implement into the server that is cheap(v4p-are free btw)-bunch of gold and money and stuff-not free.

You understand that slotted mid gears are 50+mil and a nobility gem is equal to approx 22-25mil? So if you DO give nobility a slot no one would go for sunnies and such. Thereby dropping the price of the mid gears drastically (20mil!? )

In other words an extremely BAD idea.

[Ellie]

Know what else is free?
Screwing up the entire economy.

[Corporal]

2. you have stated the only gear options for SL its the very proof they need gear options, +10vit is useless to a non vit character, and morpheus shouldnt be the only actuall gear usable, not to mention they need better weapons, no other class including SG is as restricted in gear options, other classes have many options including the ability to put together a set custom with cards, i have researched for months and there is no way of doing this with out being weak, compared to morpheus, a set btw that is just a basic gear combo like that of goibne and the the other one.??

Why does that matter? Basic gears are still good. The survivor's manteau is for FS SL, which you already seem to have neglected. For offenisve SL, however, morph set is amazing. Most high end asura champs still use morph set. Why? Because it's good. The idea isn't about how cheap a gear set is, but more about how strong the set is and how much it benefits your character. As previously mentioned, SLs are the only magic classes with access to holy and shadow attacks, and also possess the strongest single target magical attacks in PvM, just with your silly "basic gears". Morph set remains the strongest for offensive soul linkers, and I don't see why you have a problem with that. Don't like it? Don't use it.

3. you cant tell me 166+gold and bouyens and other crap needed for that quest isnt worth a slot, not to mention it makes it worth getting, and the point of the suggestion is to offer an answer to making the gems stand out above any mid gear we may make and implement into the server that is cheap(v4p-are free btw)-bunch of gold and money and stuff-not free.

First of all, it's 150 gold. Not more, just 150 if you want basic nobility. Anything you donate more for is your own choice, and the reward is worth it. Just because YOU think 25m should buy an easy NPC slotted mid, it doesn't mean it should. I think NPCs should sell MVP cards for 25m. You? Gems already stand out, and if you read the other thread Fruitlya wrote about it, then you'd have seen that slotting them is NOT an option. Then again, you're never going to look up previous ideas before making threads on them, are you?

Edit: Oh, and HERE is the old thread on it. It was only on the SECOND page of the suggestions / questions subforum. How lazy can you be?