The Legendary Joe
Raging Alt-a-holic
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RE: Concerning bee wings
Gojira Wrote:From a woe perspective, with all the grs floating around, it is necessary to have forced neutral damage for those persons when they freeze. Asura is nice but has no range, demo on the other hand is very effective for ranged neutral. The thing is, ask behemoth or ask desolation of eden, youll obtain the same answer from any woe guilds, every guild has issues having ONE creator right now because of how rare stems are...
So yeah, opinions? :@
From either PVM, or WoE perspective, Imagine if those Forced neutral skills could get wind prop damage out on those Meat Popsicles!
Back on topic, I wouldn't mind having More stems while I farm Flora cards
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01-14-2011, 03:21 PM |
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Aaronock
Ethereal Engineer
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RE:??Concerning bee wings
Snowhawk Wrote:Immortal heart is a 90% drop from one monster.
Stem is a 90% drop from two monsters. 30% from two plants, 25% from Les, 20% from Flora, 10% from Drosera.??And this is the low rate settings so x3 to everything.??100% from Mandragora which are in more locations that Verit, 90% from Green and White Plants which are abundant.??Stems are easier to get than Immortal Hearts.
You don't even need to go into Mosco 1 for this.??Mandragora are north of Prontera and in Payon Cave, Various other places.??Green Plants are everywhere pretty much.??White as well.??Stems are still easier to get than most of the other items that are Bee Wing Drop.
The good map for mandragora is absolutely wretched to walk around on, more so than even the verit map. Teleporting it is included in this, as its really hard to see around the maze on the map even if you zoom in some, its just a freaking mess.
I doubt people are going to go out of their way to farm stems. Immortal hearts, starsands, and other alchemist drops are worth selling far more than farming stems is. x)
Hilarious your are against adding stems to Bee Wings but are PERFECTLY okay with one wing dropping gold at ANY rate. I honestly don't understand your sense of balance.
*Aaronock ~ *Ezekiel Stalker ~ *Maxwell Maximillion ~ *Fazil Reis ~ *Cecil Vega
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01-14-2011, 09:06 PM |
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Snowhawk
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RE: ??Concerning bee wings
Aaronock Wrote:Snowhawk Wrote:Immortal heart is a 90% drop from one monster.
Stem is a 90% drop from two monsters. 30% from two plants, 25% from Les, 20% from Flora, 10% from Drosera.??And this is the low rate settings so x3 to everything.??100% from Mandragora which are in more locations that Verit, 90% from Green and White Plants which are abundant.??Stems are easier to get than Immortal Hearts.
You don't even need to go into Mosco 1 for this.??Mandragora are north of Prontera and in Payon Cave, Various other places.??Green Plants are everywhere pretty much.??White as well.??Stems are still easier to get than most of the other items that are Bee Wing Drop.
The good map for mandragora is absolutely wretched to walk around on, more so than even the verit map.??Teleporting it is included in this, as its really hard to see around the maze on the map even if you zoom in some, its just a freaking mess.
I doubt people are going to go out of their way to farm stems.??Immortal hearts, starsands, and other alchemist drops are worth selling far more than farming stems is.??x)
Hilarious your are against adding stems to Bee Wings but are PERFECTLY okay with one wing dropping gold at ANY rate. I honestly don't understand your sense of balance.
Observation wings was just people whining. First its TOO good, now its too crappy. I wasn't in favor of the items I said there was no reason to change their current drop rate because it was good enough. Unlike most of you I won't whine because I don't get my way or make something that is easy to get even easier because people are too lazy to farm what they need.
Once again Mandragora aren't the only way to farm Stems. You have Green Herb. North of Lighthalzen, On various other maps, Yggdrasil's trunk, Pretty much everywhere. Easy farming.
Madragora's map north of Pront is a pain in the butt. But Teleport seems to be all anyone does anyway. You'd waste FWs or Teleport when hunting Verit why not to hunt Mandragora?
You can go to Mt Mjolnir's map. mjolnir 11 which has an wasy to navigate map, has Flora on it as well so one monster with 100% drop, one with 60% Drop, and it has Green Plants all over it as well. Three of what you need.
Verit is on three maps all in one dungeon. 50 on one level, 10 on another, and then 20 on an upper level every 10-15 mins.
There are 70 Mandragora in Pront Field, 50 in Mt. Mjolnir. Mt. Mjolnir also has 60 Flora. So more options there. As for Gank, when you can't Gank, you Steal. Pretty duuur there.
There is still the Nepenthes for the clinically insane farmers.
I stopped farming both since the person I usually sold them to isn't on that often.
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01-14-2011, 11:56 PM |
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