Quest Exp Rate

[Frogboy]

JJJ Wrote:

Frogboy Wrote:Exactly the point, there isn't a lot of exp quests in RO, therefore raising the exp given by those quests is a viable compensation for the lack of quests. Granted you can bring up that RO isn't meant to be a quest-oriented game, but it doesn't exactly matter how you get to level 99 trans because your ability to play your class is going to show, whether it's in parties, WoE, PvP, etc.

not really, RO has such a limited amount theres not enough for most to bother with them which was my point as to why a lot of people don't do RO quests

however simply increasing the rewards does not increase the number of quests.

Slate Wrote:exp by clicking on npcs is not really a downside at all, it's an alternative to killing monsters which are pretty much like clicking on npcs anyway, if you do it right that is.

clicking on a npc to gain exp basically promotes useless players that have no idea how to actually level.

Slate Wrote:people will still need to know how to play in order to compete, because not everyone will use the quest exp to level, therefore you will need to have a level of skill, so that point is pretty moot.

true, but you'll have a larger majority of people that have no idea about the proper way to use a character, and im pretty sure theres not a single person that wants more "noob" players

Slate Wrote:even if you get to 99 trans by doing repeatable quests then you still have to know how to play your character.

uhhh i don't get this point?
how does knowing how to spam enter teach you how to play your character?

Ellie Wrote:2. How is grinding also not pointing and clicking? Many people level at HWs, which for most, is a point and click.
Archers with DS or FA, Merchants with Mammomite, Sins with GT.
On that note, some classes can level without even clicking. Hi2u, alchemists with homuns.

the difference is you know how to kill certain monsters, you know which skills, gears, and tactics will work

ie. you know what you can mob, you know what you can actually kill, you know how to direct your build, etc

Ellie Wrote:3. Enter key has as much skill as Priests at Anubis, or bard/dancer going to HWs. XD

at least there they need to know what gears to use, what skills to use (bless anubis, lex, so on) even if all you do is DS spam you still learn how many DS' you can shoot off before you run out of sp and how fast you can shoot them off

Force-Attuned Krogoth Wrote:Quests won't stop the people who want to learn the job from doing so.??And grinding won't stop the people who want to slide by from doing that, either.??I consider this a wholly moot issue that won't make a significant difference.

the main difference is your giving them the chance to get to an extremely high level with little to no effort

ok my rebuttal...though you misquoted who said all of that, as it wasn't slate, but me XD

anyway, the part about increasing the exp does not increase the number of quests. i have no idea where you got that. i wasn't expecting an increase in quests, ever. nobody should, ro isn't known for quests, though we have been doing our best to come up with new quests to do. however, due to the limited amount of quests that we do have, doesn't it make more sense anyway to give a greater reward for completing them because of the lack of quests available? either that, or start making a whole lot more quests that give less exp, so that people that want to quest instead of mob can do so.

you're saying we'll have useless players that don't know how to play their class. if that were true, don't you think WoW or Guild Wars or any other MMO that is based more on questing for exp rather than killing monsters for that exp would have fallen apart because, by your logic, people that enter spam obviously cannot know how to play their character. that is a complete fallacy as is evidenced in those games. anyone wishing to actually compete and do well will have to put the effort in to knowing how their class works, what is needed in each situation, and how to get what is needed. otherwise you're right, we do have worthless players, but then again, those not willing to put in the time and effort won't really compete as it won't be worth it for them.

as for krogoth's point, and your rebuttal on that, what i have to say to that is so what if they get to a high level? you would agree with me that RO has become more centered around WoE and PvP as the end-game ideal, at least that is the way it has been in most every server i've played in. grinding is just part of the process, or questing, whichever suits your fancy, but in the end it leads to one thing if that's what you want, and that is WoE/PvP/MvP. really, RO will eventually become like all other games, it will become stagnant because there just isn't anything else left to do. that is why Gravity comes up with new episodes, and new quests, and ultimately this whole changeover in the way the game is played and how their stats work and what not, and third classes. there just isn't really anything new by the time you get to the end-game. granted if it could be done more slowly getting there, then that wouldn't be bad, but as it is, there aren't enough quests to do that, so as a temporary thing, raise the exp rates up, then if we can introduce a whole slew of exp quests that give far less exp, yet keep them with the server rates, then that'd be a much more exciting ordeal. the hard part is making quests worthy of heroes