Sugg: Falcon Trigger

[GM-Ayu]

High vit def/def = Get your Falconer.

Or throw on your Ice Pick!

I prefer my sharpshoot-only build for that (and I do retain 150 dex, so just 10 lower than average sniper builds which I find acceptable in damage, but they DS 1 by 1, I hit all at once with 65% crit rate ;P). Plus, sharpshoot gears is much more affordable than ice pick ;p

As a general statement about crit builds: I think ALL crit build is horrible except maybe sharpshoot dedicated ones, because that one skill retains crits with natural crit bonus, AoE, and doesn't eat up your weapon card slots OR takes a huge dent in str/dex (whichever is your main damage attribute) to get to 60+ crit rate. All other crit... really it's just fun only. Lack of 20% card is such a serious blow to damage output, or going below 100 str/140 dex isn't going to cut it.

If ToH is dragged in the program: just no. ToH is timed and favors massive short bursts of explosive damage. This strongly favors boringly efficient DS spam. ToH heals you after every wave, so items you carry are expected to be used against very tough enemies that you essentially have to pot to regain hp/sp to outlast the monsters. ToH really doesn't tolerate fun builds a lot.

Even as a for fun build... I don't know. I tried a 90 str knight before to be 'efficient' and the 20 str difference is so big compare to standard knight build (110 str) that it gets to the point of frustrating just how slow the killing speed is in grinding. I honestly think that as long as the bow is involved, even a for fun build really needs 130-140 dex for some consistency and just general killing speed so the grind goes faster.

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Like I said before... really the moment you pull out calculations and math, signifying a min-max argument, people will jump to you to treat it as a serious build. If it's not serious, generally people just throw stats as they feel like it and not worry about whatever potential "but this is 40 damage more!" type of stuff. So really, both sides of Ayanatis and Sara be mindful about being sensible to each other's connotations either, while at the same time, don't provoke each other (directly or indirectly) anymore.

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As for renewal: who cares?

We're obviously NOT on renewal right now. Argue about it afterward when it's there.

(plus, if all things go wrong in renewal, ask the wanderer to give you a +16 all stat song, and with blessing, +26 all stat. That shows how great is the difference between current and renewal mechanics, and how different the future will be to even bother discussing renewal builds right now until we get there. And that's what, year 2056, give or take a few decades?)