i didn't say old, i said lower end. don't misread something and go blabbing like you know it all when you're not even arguing the right thing to begin with.
also, since we both came from the same server (and granted the MvP skills did change since then) i'm pretty sure there was an SN there that could go around killing MvPs and frequently did, but that's an entirely different matter as they royally screwed up the mechanics there.
anyway, i notice you just like to argue, so for the sake of decency i'm not gonna debate back on this.