heRO SvN Update

[GM-Ayu]

Basically, if you have battleground equipments, rarely do you have to hunt for an actual equipment because often they suffice if not beat a "natural carded" weapon.

Eg. Glorious Bloody Roar[0] vs Infiltrator[hydra]
both weapons share same attack power and weapon level, so it's all up to the effect now:

Glorious Bloody Roar
????* increases physical damage versus demi-human opponents by 70%.
????* Bypasses 20% of the defense on demi-human opponents.
????* Unbreakable.

Upgrade Bonuses:

????* +6: Bypass additional 5% of the defense on demi-human opponents.
??????Slaughtering Level 1.
????* +9: When attacking physically, chance to increase ASPD by 100% for 3 seconds.


Slaughter lv 1 does this:
(Upgrade Level - 4) ^ 2 increased % damage vs demihuman
(so at +6, it gives 4%, then +7 9%, then +8 16%, +9 25%, +10 36%)

Indestructible (except in upgrade attempts).

Infiltrator[hydra]
increases physical damage versus demi-human opponents by 70% (50 initial + 20 from hydra)
DEF + 3
Flee Rate + 5
Perfect Dodge + 2

So at worse, it is "equal" to fully carded Infiltrator[hydra] which are usually left at +4 or +5 most of the time in base % damage. Higher refine can net you increasingly better results in the % department. But the KvM Katar gives you 20% bypass consistently on every attack (not one of those, % to activate when attack type. This always bypass). The 3 def, 5 flee and 2 perfect dodge can hardly match to the 20% bypass.


MATH WARNING ALERT


Now you can say that it's balanced and justified because 3200 KVM Points (battleground currency) is a lot and you have to pvp/win lots to do this. True on kRO, but erm what's the pvp population here compare to there? After the first 100 or 300 points, you are probably fighting the same people who you probably beat the first time, and most likely you can beat them again unless battleground gave you unlucky class matchups. Our small population of 250-300 people (since with merch we have 400), it's not overly difficult to send your guild to KvM all at once, and take over the entire KvM at the same time to the point of your own guild fighting each other, and by then not hard to rake the results so the game ends as fast as possible. Then, you can earn more and more KvM points faster and faster.

So exactly how fast do you earn points? For the sake of calculation, I omit the time needed to gather the "KvM grind" pvp party, since pvm grinding, optimal hydra spots may be "taken" by alchemists already, or other people at the same map reducing your mobbing speed too. I make the assumption that the 2 types of delay balance each other out.

Lv 90 and higher KvM (don't have to be trans), you get 5 points for winning, 1 point for losing for everyone on that team. The *longest* amount of time KvM allows is 5 minutes (usually last less than that, and if it's friends vs friends, usually one team suicides to speed it up). So at "half of maximum time" of 2.5 minute for 5 points, you need 27 hours to get one katar. Sounds like a lot?

Now let's count statistically how many monsters do you need to kill to hunt a hydra + enough infiltrator to successfully slot?

Fighting 2000 monsters have a 56% chance of obtaining at least one (or more) 0.03% drop item. I think this is a fair success rate to take since it's kind of close to "half the time you get it really fast, and half the time it takes you beyond statistical average to get a card/infiltrator."

2000 hydra = hydra card

So how many infiltrator is needed? At 3rd infiltrator slot attempt, you have a 50% of failing again,s o let's assume 3. This means, 6000 nightmares are needed.

Think you can get 1 hydra card and 3 infiltrator in 27 hours?

More than likely, even if we do have battlegrounds, we will change the prizes, or adjust battleground equipment stats (and we have no plans to adjust their stats yet, not even discussions on it so I can't tell you what "type of adjustments" are GMs thinking of. It's just one of the many possibility of what we can do with KvM.) I researched other low rate servers who have functioning battlegrounds, and most of them also seem to have taken the approach of customizing prizes, such as a new type of "(server name) prize box" which is like, a better version of OPB that only drops equipments, or dropping woe materials/consumables or kafra shop's 1 weight +10 stat item type of prizes.

For comparison on another low rate, their prizes changed to this:
(prizes costing less than 80: they are all potion packages)
- Jewelry Box: 80 Badges
- Old Card Album: 100 Badges
- lvl 10 Food (you can choose one): 150 Badges
- Valkyrja's Shield[1]: 500 Badges
- Flying Angel[0]: 1000 Badges


It's the same reason why we took out Hugel's Bingo for Ice Pick and slotted elemental armors, even though those are "official". Works for official cause they have a huge playerbase and the supply is only as small as us so they need alternative outlets to release things people want. But, for us, we really don't need alternative outlets on high end, well refined equipments (fairy auctions do act as 'alternative outlets' for us, but you'll realize that things we sell there are hardly immediately ready for PvP action like the glorious bloody roar can.)


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Either way, these discussion on theoretical numbers are kinda moot when battleground is in "trunk" and we are in "stable." That's honestly far bigger of a problem than you think in many aspects, and this problem applies for any servers as old as we are.