Non-Tran WoE...

[azurerogue]

30-50 is a large overestimate, imo, though I don't know how many people Bamboo actually had on.

And why is having "Five or six Wizzies, and LOKIS VEIL" a big deal? Not sure if you trans WoE, but Seraph often has multiple Meteor Storms, a Storm Gust and one or TWO Lokis Veils up in the recent WoEs.

As for gear, I WoEd with a Khalitzburg Stone Buckler (never got around to making a cranial SB and the Khalitzburg was the highest refine SB I had) and still only died three times while spamming Grand Cross. I even brought my level 50 baby novice into the castle and ALMOST got a kill before the little bard hit me back

The fun thing about non-trans is there is no insane spike damage (no EDP-linked SB, no AD, no Asura spam - well, the could be, but it would be MUCH slower, etc etc). Sure, linked SB can still do "decent" damage, and Asura will still hurt (not that monks are nearly as scary as champs) IF you get hit with it. But overall pretrans is almost more resource intensive because you deal with almost endless pressure as opposed to individual spikes of damage.