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RE: Ragnarok Lore
By Deses
Quote:I think I have some lore stored in my head about Rekenber, Schwartzwald and Arunafeltz. All the info that I'm going to write is completely based from what I've seen and read in quests, with little fictional linking and conclusions. Some of these quests were done months ago, even a year for Morriphen's (but it was my first, so i remember it quite well), but I happen to have a good memory for otherwise useless, but also intriguing, pieces of fiction, mythology and trivia. Also, I started writting all this just after starting page 3, so I won't forget. Here goes nothing:
First is Biological Weapon Quest. I took notes for this quest, but I lost them in the end. An NPC in Einbroch requests help from you so he can get medicine for his and his "wife"'s disease, so you visit his friend in Lighthalzen. In the end, said NPC tells you the whole story: he (Morriphen I think it was) and his friend worked as top researchers at Rekenber. One of them was doing research on weapons, strictly speaking HUMAN weapons. Between these researches, Morriphen saw a beautiful woman in a test tube and fell in love with her, visiting her from time to time (she was asleep the whole time). One day, he learned from his friends that the test subjects were a failure were gonna be dispatched. Morriphen couldn't stand his beloved dying, so he set up a plan: at night, he got into the labs, broke that woman's tube and set the lab into fire to cover his escape. Unfortunately, the fire released some other biological experiments (a.k.a.: the virus) that infected both him and the girl with that disease that was killing them slowly. He ran and ran, but once he got tired, he fell unconscious somewhere near Abyss Lake. There, some cloaked man (whose name was very important but I can't remember) found them and brought them to Hugel, where Morriphen thought both of them could live happily, until money started being scarce and had to move to Einbroch to get a job. Also, after the incident, a lot of people, including his friend, were fired.
There's also Crow of Destiny Quest for another case of a lab in fire, but according to the locations (the lab was near Juno, but nowhere near, let alone under, Lighthalzen) and NPCs, it looks like it was in no way related to Rekenber, just some crazy sage's experiments. I'd need to play it again to point out the exact lines that cut any possible relation with Rekenber, though.
About Thor's Volcano, nothing strange going there: the most radical faction of the Freya cult, leaded by one of rachel's High Priests, has a secret militar camp in the volcano, training for war against Rune-Midgard for the Ymir Heart pieces. They have huge stocks of weaponry in that camp. that weaponry has the Schwartzwald emblem, so it is assumed that they were sent by Rekenber (a link that is later revealed in the quests). Guardians happen to be part of this weaponry developed by Rekenber. That's why you have those guys dressed like Arunafeltz people that summon both a sword guardian and bow guardian - they are belong to them.
Also, it was Sage Valmunt who first created guardians, inspired by the race of Giants, whose traces were found at Odin't Shrine (also, Schwartzwald group there is interested in a rumored Ymir's Heart piece. this group has some business with Rekenber). What he didn't know is what they were going to use them for. Ultimately, he left the company, but not uninjured, like Cursed Spirit Quest shows. In fact, that quest shows you many memories of people that once worked for Rekenber but were later dispossed (eeither because they were no longer useful or because they discovered things) or used as test subjects for diseases.
About robots, as stated by Ellysia, there are 3 generations, developed with some help from Rekenber (they were interested in battle-robots as an alternative for Guardians. Though Kiel's original aim was for the robots to blend in society and help people. Also, the help and money he got from Rekember [as in the beggining he was too poor to do anything] let him completely ruin and oblitterate James' family, the one who took Ellysia's love). The first generation was built with a heavy frame and was completely mechanical, with synthetic skin and a memory scroll for a brain. Ellysia is its more noticeable sample. The second generation got the same mechanical skeleton, but homunculi technology was used for the rest of the body. they had a condensed memory scroll as their core, but it was unstable and the series was disposed. Kiel Hyre was only allowed to keep Kiehl from this series. The third generation is made with homunculi technology from flesh to bone and a perfected and stable memory scroll (you can get most of this info from Ellysia whenever you want after being granted access to Kiel's house). This generation was indeed developed by Kiehl himself. Kiehl Hyre later tried to turn this last generation into mindles assassinating bots, after an agreement with Rekenber. Kiel Hyre tried to protect them with the Academy, but failed. Alicel and Aliot are presumably some of these student-robots turned into mindless drones, that would be why they are wearing school uniforms and a case. I'm very certain about this quest, I did it one month ago for the last time.
More about Rachel Sanctuary, Vanberk, Isilla, Echio and Agav are just Freya followers, at least in looks. You can find many NPCs dressed like that, hat included (the quest to summon ktunallux). About the summoning in Rachel Sanctuary, the only summoning I can remember in the whole Arunafeltz storyline is the one Hibraim did at Nameless Island. His diary states that he doesn't know whether what will be summoned is good or evil, but he'd do it anyways.
Also, are you sure that Rayan did read a book at Juno (sorry, joined RO too late to do that quest) and that Hibraim later found it? I thought he found it at Nameless' monastery.
Also I can't remember the High Priest at Thor's Volcano base being Hibraim, and he seemed to be quite old (there were many radical High Priests, afterall), though I can be mistaken, it's not like I remember any other name in its place.
What I can say for sure is that Arunafeltz wants all the Ymir Heart pieces to revive Freya (and looking at RO2, looks like they succeeded... and Rekenber failed, as they had some), a tip that was given to Freya by Odin himself. Then there's the radical faction that wants to take said fragments by force. Lookd like Rune-Midgard unawaredly has some, maybe Geffenia's crystal is one?
About Wickebine, the cat-assassin in Morroc. At Charles Orlean's kitchen, in Prontera's castle, there's a cat-girl. Said cat girl, according to one of Orlean's assistants, is the younger sister of Wickebine Tres, whom Orleans is in love with, so that's why he doesn't get the girl out of his kitchen.
About Payon, I do remember too an NPC in new Payon (or Archer's Village) stating that due to lack of time and money, they threw dead workers and people into the dungeon, and that they were recently coming back to life. They are a threat, as when they are brung down, they rise again.
About Cool Event Corp., it's just a small company that tries to rule the same trade as kafra Corp. They got help from Rekenber to bully Kafra out of their territories, that's the whole reason why Kafra Corp. aids Secret Wing.
By Rutana
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Originally Posted by Deses??
Also, are you sure that Rayan did read a book at Juno (sorry, joined RO too late to do that quest) and that Hibraim later found it? I thought he found it at Nameless' monastery.
Also I can't remember the High Priest at Thor's Volcano base being Hibraim, and he seemed to be quite old (there were many radical High Priests, afterall), though I can be mistaken, it's not like I remember any other name in its place.
Wait, Rayan like Rayan Moore?
I'm very sure that he isn't connected to Nameless Island in any way.
The Book Hibraim used to summon was connected to Belzebub, a really strong demon (org. based in christian myth).
Rayan Moore used a different book. His goal was the summoning of Satan Morocc, and he and his followers succeeded in that summoning later with the episode 12.1.
While you could help stopping the ritual before (Dandelion Quest), it couldn't be stopped in the end. The seal was weakened, Satan Morocc raised and took Morroc and half of the Sograt Desert with him, also creating the dimensional gorge. Accourding to the follow quest of Dandelion, Satan Morocc flew through the gorge, and as the assassin guild, bound to this case from the beginning, followed him, they actually came to Ash Vacuum.
I don't remember the follow quest 1:1 atm, but I remember the Dandelion Quest very well.
From all over the world, children gone missing. The Assassin Guild became two important missions and recruited adventurer's (a ka you) to help.
There were two missions aviable:
You could help Kyd, who had an assassination mission for the one behind the child abductions, or you could help Lin, who got an bodyguard mission for Mr. R.
Either way you choose, it comes out, that Mr. R is Rayan Moore and he try's to ressurrect Satan Morocc, who's sealed away under Morroc by Thanatos. He and his followers kidnapped the children, using them as sacriface. So Lin and Kyd worked against another without knowing it, because Lin had to protect Rayan from Kyd
In the end, Rayan tries to kill everyone, Kyd saves Lin live, Lin got hurt badly during this and Rayan fled.
In Ash Vacuum, you find Kyd, who asks you for your help again. They're still searching for Rayan. On your way through the quest you also meet up with Lin again, still recovering from that incedent. You're able to find Rayan and he's possessed, even killed his own followers.
If I remember correctly, he's holding captive by the assassin guild now... or dead... Only did that quest once, while I made Dandelion about... 25 times or such
(mostly in the one day between euRO server merge and 12.1 update, because they announced that update during the merging progress and you really had only one day left to do that quest with all missing chars...)
And thats all that was written and i thought was important
Hope you enjoyed reading this as much as i did!
some stuff i missed involving some MvP background info
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repare for my own lengthy post here. Hopefully this information can help fill in a few gaps that are out there.
By Kinnay
Quote:I have sat down with all 10 volumes of the Manwha... And here is what I have found to be referential. I'll be starting with the first volume going sequentially through until 10 (the most interesting of them all). As you may know Myung Jin Lee's Manwha is the basis for the game itself. I figure the lore from the books is a good place to start with figuring things out in the actual game.
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 1
Volume 1: Nothing too interesting pertaining to current game lore.
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 2
We have a few pages in direct reference to the fight between Satan Morroc and Thanatos. Basically there are some guards standing around in Morroc guarding. A few of them talk about Satan Morroc and Thanatos (called Tanat and Surt respectively but there's no mistaking the drawings... 100% Satan Morroc and Thanatos). This also goes on into the beginning of Volume 3 referencing a lot that we've seen in game. You'll see as you read.
Direct Transcription:
Page 1:
Guard A: ... You mean no one's told you the legend around here? Can I at least assume you know about the war of the gods?
Guard B: Aah! Yes sir! 1000 years ago fire demons sought to destroy Midgard! They lost!
[Insert black bordered remembrance pages here]
Aye, but 400 years later, Satan Morroc, their master raised a new legion and sent them to burn away the world! It looked like no one could stop them until a lone warrior faced the fiery giant!
[Page with this transcript has Thanatos standing in front of Satan Morroc with a huge ass sword in his hands, ready to fight.]
Page 2:
[Image of Satan Morroc's ugly mug, speaking to Thanatos]
Satan Morroc: Puny mortal! What chance have you? I am Satan Morroc, Lord of Muspell!... You are NOTHING!
[Thanatos standing behind his sword, very smug looking]
Thanatos: My name is Thanatos. And I am far from nothing! As you shall see!
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[Epic fight between Thanatos and Satan Morroc]
Thanatos and Satan Morroc fought for 10 days and 10 nights splitting the heavens and earth.
[Thanatos driving his sword into the ground, somewhat looking like he's sealing something]
Guard A: At the very last... Thanatos defeated the Fire Lord, Forcing him back to Muspell. He sealed the way by which Satan Morroc had come, creating a shrine to protect it.
Guard B: Then... Then... That shrine is...
Guard A: Yes, the castle sits on the site of the original shrine. Understand now?
[After talking about this the guards get ambushed by a bunch of assassins including Loki. Some scenes of these guards fighting the assassins, with the assassins dropping them using weird magic like snakes and stuff. After the guards are taken care of, some creatures come up out of the roof of the Morroc Castle. These things are solid black and faceless, with masks and remind me a LOT of the minibosses in Thanatos Tower]
Assassin, speaking about some people that they've come to intervene (sorcerers or something): "They've already begun to open the way for Satan Morroc!"
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 3
[Assassins staring down at the faceless monsters, which look enough like Thanatos minibosses to remind you of them, but not carbon copies... And far enough off they COULD be something else. For the next several pages the assassins fight them down with the same weird methods as the last volume.]
[After the fighting is over, you see a guy that looks an awful lot like Sinestro from the Green Lantern looking out a window noticing the fighting. He seems pretty angry about the assassins coming to interfere. On the next page you see a bunch of children hanging from the ceiling by chains above a pot of boiling liquid.]
Sinestro looking guy: "You eliminate them all quickly! Before anything goes wrong with our glorious mission".
[The guys daughter ends up walking in and sees what is going on, very startled and starts to yell at him about what's going on. He replies as so...]
Sinestro looking guy: It is still not enough! We must sacrifice more! Only through the blood rite can we open the way! The time draws near! Our master Satan Morroc will tread upon Midgard once more!
[The assassins eventually all bust into where this guy is working on sacrificing children to revive Satan morroc. The assassins speak with him and the "balance" of the world is discussed.]
Sinestro looking guy: "Now, now... There is no reason for all of this. Isn't the objective of the assassins' guild to preserve the balance in this world?"
Assassins: "Indeed... And that's why your master cannot be permitted to return."
Sinestro looking guy: "But do you not see? You have it all wrong! The world is already out of balance! The gods have all under their iron rule! Even the giants act only as their puppets! Satan Morroc's return will tip the scales to be even again!"
[More discussing between the Sinestro guy and assassins. Nothing seems to be good enough to post here about the resurrection of Satan Morroc. Basically it's just "Ahahaha! He will return!" and "NU UH! WE WILL STOP U!"]
[More fighting and arguing occurs, and eventually the Sinestro guy reveals that he is not human and has been turned demonic by the power of Satan Morroc. Once he turns into this form he looks a lot like a cross between Palkia from the Pokemon series and Gloom Under Night minus the glowyness.]
[Continued on in a 20 or so page battle, with the Sinestro guy eventually destroyed by the assassins (Loki specifically).]
Subsequent Volumes coming later on!
There's lots of awesomeness! Like the history of Geffenia!
*Note: The English versions were adapted by some dude named Richard A. Knaak so I don't know how off any of this is. If I could read/write Korean I'd gladly do the work off the original writing... Otherwise... Meh.
Also... So so happy my mother decided to ninja replace my copies via the internet! Half.com is love! I loaned all 10 out to someone years upon years ago... Never got em back needless to say.
By Prodigy
Quote:Originally Posted by shilin??
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Originally Posted by Doddler??
The book in question remains in Beelzebub's right hand.
does that mean it's the ledger of death? but how can it corrupt so many people but become so easily destroyed? if it still retains some of its power, why does it not possess any more subsequent owners of it? and if it's not destroyed, why does it not provide the player some of the knowledge that its previous owners sought?
About the book, this is just my speculation, but maybe players are unable to fully read the book? This might explain why only Sages (the knowledgable class) can use the book's Hell's Judgement power because they can read part into the book.
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Originally Posted by shilin??
beelz being the mastermind that connects pieces together is well-orchestrated but his defeat sounds a little anticlimatic and poorly explained. from the sounds of it, beelz's importance in the development of events seconds only next to morroc (i.e., valk, ifrit, etc are only consequences of what is occurring in the world, not the cause) so if morroc deserved such an impressive episode finale, so did beelz ):
I wished ni3 episode had explained more now that I know beelz isnt just another random monster that emerged from his slumbers due to the disturbances
Speaking of the origins of MvPs, I wonder why there isn't much of a story behind Sealed Shrine Baphomet. I get that his seal weakened due to Satan Morroc's power breaking free into the world. I also get that he was sealed there some ancient time ago by some brave warriors. But, he's a demon that also thretened the entire world for god's sake. How come the 3 kingdoms didn't pay any attention to it and that Friar Patrick, knowing that Bapho's seal was weakening, was just patiently standing there for some random adventurer to pass by. If an adventurer (the players) didn't randomly pass by the monestary, then won't that mean giant bapho would have been unleashed into the world as well?
By Twilights Call
Quote:Dark Lord and Baphomet have somewhat similar stories, in that they are both 'ultimate evils' that can't properly manifest in Midgard. In Dark Lord's case, his true body is in the fiend realm (whatever that is) and the Dark Lord in GH is just a manifestation of the small amount of his power he is able to get into Midgard. This is what you learn during the Sign Quest.
I forget where I read it, but I believe that Dark Lord's true incarnation is supposed to be roughly on the same level as Naght Seiger, except where Naght Seiger excelled in physical combat Dark Lord excelled in magic.
Baphomet is similar, except the story of Sealed Shrine hints that Baphomet was able to get his true body from the Fiend Realm into Midgard. He was subsequently sealed by the Ancient Hero(s) that you talk to in Sealed Shrine in the Monastery.
As for why Friar Patrick didn't do much to warn the world of Baphomet's impending revival, I would imagine that is because the entire world was already coming together to fight Morroc; there wasn't exactly many people left to deal with another threat. And after all, the entire purpose of the Monastery (and the monks who train there I believe) were to keep Baphomet sealed, so it was only an act of desperation that they called out to the adventurers when Baphomet was breaking his seal. It is likely they expected to be able to hold the seal themselves, and if it hadn't been for Morroc's meddling, they probably could have. In addition, the players were only called into the Monastery to help strengthen the seal, from the dialogue's in the instance it looks very much like the NPCs there never intended you to actually fight Baphomet.
As for people thinking Beelzebub doesn't have a very 'glorious' death considering the amount of trouble he's causing, there's a couple things you have to remember. Firstly is that Beelzebub himself isn't overly powerful, in the sense that Morroc, Randgris, and Ifrit are. Most of his power is derived from working behind the scenes, being crafty, and the like. After all, you don't summon Morroc to destroy the world if you can do it yourself right? Beelzebub himself probably isn't fond of directly fighting himself, hence the revival of Satan Morroc and him leaving Hibram in the Cursed Monastery. He seems to me to be the sort of 'why get my hands dirty when I can make someone else do it' kind of guy.
So it makes sense that, if confronted head on, he wouldn't be able to put up a huge fight in comparison to the other top tier bosses of the game. Obviously he does his best, and his nature truly shows through his skill set (Magic Mirror, Critical Wounds, Magnetic Earth, Evil Land, Stone Skin and him just being Ghost property all show he fights more using tricks and tactics then brute force).
And yes, the Ledger of Death and the Necronomicon are different. After all, giving the book that summoned Beelzebub to players would just get the players possessed, and have Beelzebub resummoned somewhere else right?
As for Gloom Under Night, I was unaware he was actually summoned into Rachel Sanctuary. The feeling I had gotten from the quest was that the higher ups in Rachel had been gathering Ymir heart pieces in the Holy Ground (you can see them on level three), and the Gloom Under Night was simply attracted to the massive amounts of power that had been stored there. The Seekers, Beholders, Hodremlins, and Gremlins were all summoned into the Sanctuary by Gloom, and the Echios, Agavs, Isillas, and Vanberks were all priests of the temple who had been either possessed or driven insane by Gloom's influence. Though reading through this thread I do now see the resemblence of the Isillas and Vanberks to stone workers of some sort, I'm pretty confident by the dress of the Echios and Agavs that they were some sort of clergy.
But again, thats just the feeling I got from the quest. I don't remember ever hearing of anything being summoned during the quest, but I guess I'll have to pay more attention next time I go through it.
Now the new stuffs under line of epicness #2
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By Deses Quote:My mistake for not specifying. Yes, Rayan as in Rayan Moore. Doddler said so some pages ago. And that's what I was doubting, since I don't remember anything about Hibraim being related to Rayan, his family or his house. Hmm, maybe I could read the diary again and learn something... oh, but Father bampth kept the diary after the quest was over, didn't he?
Not to mention, now that I think about it, it wasn't the book that drove Rayan mad, but that lone dark crystal fragment that could be later found between Rayan's clothes.
I knew the storyline by reading lines, but I am missing the details that can only be seen by playing it (I even know about placing the elemental ores in key places and let them dull). Reading the quest guides, now I also recall something about Rekenber being interested in Thanatos Tower to learn how to gain control over Satan. Aww, aren't they the kind of thing you love to hate? A quest involving their final defeat would be so satisfying.
Damn, I feel tempted of looking for a pserver just to do this quest. Two times.
By Nitrox
Quote:Sorry for my bad english but I wanted to share my thoughts about Eremes in Bio3.
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Originally Posted by Ying Hua??
[...]
- Eremes Guile: Out of the six Biolabs NPCs, this is the only person that I cannot uncover any information. Perhaps I missed someone somewhere along the way, [...]
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Originally Posted by Thyrial??
[...]
As far as the story behind Eremes goes, there may be something about him somewhere but the way I look at it, these characters are all supposed to be rather skilled at their jobs. If Eremes was a particularly good Assassin Cross then no one would really know anything about him. [...]
Anyone noticed the single Eremes in Lvl 2? I always wondered why there is a single Lvl 3 mob in Lvl 2. Maybe Eremes was one of the best Assassins out there, like Thyrial said. Maybe he found out what stuff is going on in the Rekenber corporation, sneaked in Lvl 2 and wanted to stop them. He was caught and was used for experiments too. Thats what I think.
by Merrim Quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deses??
When burning the laboratory and taking Siria, Morriphen and her got in contact with some chemicals that started deteriorating their tissues. So maybe, biolabs 2-1 mobs also didn't want to become weapons and were thrown away?
So he's the reason Biolab is in ruins? It would make sense with what was said earlier about biolab 3 been the most damaged one, he probably started the fire to escape with Siria there (makes for a good distraction) then the fire spread to the higher levels.
By SkySpirit Quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnay??
Prepare for my own lengthy post here. Hopefully this information can help fill in a few gaps that are out there.
I have sat down with all 10 volumes of the Manwha... And here is what I have found to be referential. I'll be starting with the first volume going sequentially through until 10 (the most interesting of them all). As you may know Myung Jin Lee's Manwha is the basis for the game itself. I figure the lore from the books is a good place to start with figuring things out in the actual game.
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 2
We have a few pages in direct reference to the fight between Satan Morroc and Thanatos. Basically there are some guards standing around in Morroc guarding. A few of them talk about Satan Morroc and Thanatos (called Tanat and Surt respectively but there's no mistaking the drawings... 100% Satan Morroc and Thanatos). This also goes on into the beginning of Volume 3 referencing a lot that we've seen in game. You'll see as you read.
Direct Transcription:
Page 1:
Guard A: ... You mean no one's told you the legend around here? Can I at least assume you know about the war of the gods?
Guard B: Aah! Yes sir! 1000 years ago fire demons sought to destroy Midgard! They lost!
[Insert black bordered remembrance pages here]
Aye, but 400 years later, Satan Morroc, their master raised a new legion and sent them to burn away the world! It looked like no one could stop them until a lone warrior faced the fiery giant!
[Page with this transcript has Thanatos standing in front of Satan Morroc with a huge ass sword in his hands, ready to fight.]
Page 2:
[Image of Satan Morroc's ugly mug, speaking to Thanatos]
Satan Morroc: Puny mortal! What chance have you? I am Satan Morroc, Lord of Muspell!... You are NOTHING!
[Thanatos standing behind his sword, very smug looking]
Thanatos: My name is Thanatos. And I am far from nothing! As you shall see!
Page 3:
[Epic fight between Thanatos and Satan Morroc]
Thanatos and Satan Morroc fought for 10 days and 10 nights splitting the heavens and earth.
[Thanatos driving his sword into the ground, somewhat looking like he's sealing something]
Guard A: At the very last... Thanatos defeated the Fire Lord, Forcing him back to Muspell. He sealed the way by which Satan Morroc had come, creating a shrine to protect it.
Guard B: Then... Then... That shrine is...
Guard A: Yes, the castle sits on the site of the original shrine. Understand now?
[After talking about this the guards get ambushed by a bunch of assassins including Loki. Some scenes of these guards fighting the assassins, with the assassins dropping them using weird magic like snakes and stuff. After the guards are taken care of, some creatures come up out of the roof of the Morroc Castle. These things are solid black and faceless, with masks and remind me a LOT of the minibosses in Thanatos Tower]
Assassin, speaking about some people that they've come to intervene (sorcerers or something): "They've already begun to open the way for Satan Morroc!"
By Kinnay Quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 4
Not much here of importance...
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok: Volume 5
Direct Transcript
[Some mentioning on the origins of Ymir's heart, as discussed by Sara Irene with some narration to the female 'necromancer' Himmelmez. Basically they are both currently attacking the city of Prontera from above in some type of 'undead plant based airship'. The circumstances around this discussion are somewhat irrelevant, however it may help with some of your ponderings.]
Sara Irene: Lets talk about the 'Heart of Ymir'.
[Image of a dark figure from behind, most likely this is Odin.]
Sara Irene: Gone more than 1000 years, after the war against the Vanir, Odin himself created Midgard with it.
[Panning of homes in Midgard, people in town, and the landscape generally referencing the 'scattering' of the heart pieces. No images of the heart pieces themselves are shown.]
Sara Irene: He spread it's powerful fragments all over the world, structuring Midgard into what it is today.
Sara Irene: The fragments maintain Midgard's integrity and feed its growth. It'sbecause of them that civilization even developed on the mortal plane.
[Scenes of Sara Irene and Himmelmez discussing their own personal need for these heart pieces, which is the reasoning for them attacking the city of Prontera.]
Himmelmez: The 'purification of Midgard'... For Freya to recreate the world in her image, she needs vast power.
Sara Irene: Combined, the piece of the heart will give her that and more.
Himmelmez: Enough to alter reality itself!
Sara Irene: Which brings us to where the greatest fragment is buried.
[Shot of the Prontera castle at night, with explosions all around it from the attack on the city.]
Sara Irene: The very midst of Prontera, underneath the royal castle itself.
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[Later on in the book, our group of 'heroes' is seen atop the Prontera castle with one of the Prontera Army Generals. He makes some mentioning to them that he needs a little help defending something of great importance...]
General: ...I think I know what this monstrous army wants... Somehow they must know Prontera's secret.
[Fenris looks slightly puzzled from the side, as we get a couple views of things that look like stalactites and sewer walls.]
Fenris Fenrir: ...Secret?General: Right. Only the king and a few select subordinates know about it. As the commanding general of all Volsug, it became my duty to see that the secret was always protected.
Soldier A: Hmph! Duty? Over the years it?s been more of a curse?
[The general and his forces open a locked door together, which is closed by some kind of clockwork mechanisms. We?re clearly in the basement of the Prontera castle.]
Iris Irene: What?s the secret? What?s in there?
Fenris Fenrir: Could it be? No?
[The general stands matter of fact, door opening behind him]
General: Beyond this door lies legend itself? The essence of all of which we dream, including our worst nightmares, I might add. Come and see.
Iris Irene: Wha?What is that!?
General: It began as a tiny fragment? Then grew to this.
[View showing a close up of the Ymir heart piece, almost exactly as it appears in game.]
General: Behold, the very foundation of Midgard, the heart of Ymir.
[A couple battle scenes are occurring, so the story goes into that for about 4 more pages, then we return to the underground ?cavern? that includes the heart piece. ]
Fenris Fenrir: It?s as I thought? The heart of Ymir--- but whole!
Rutana Quote:Doppelganger was waaaay before Lighthalzen and I don't think he's connected to them in anyway. I think he just is what his name tells: a Doppelganger, mirroring the people who fight against him - and Swordman was the first First Job ingame, am I right?
In the anime he fought like a mirror against the main character (I forgot his name...) and another clue, that he isn't involved in any Rekenber story's, is his mob of Nightmare's. A bunch of ghost horses.
I think though that he was a human once.
There's an interesting quest (cursed Emerald?) involving a swordman with Doppelganger's look, though, who went crazy on the kobold map. I don't remember what story was right, if he went crazy because his friends died or if he went crazy and killed his friends. I think it was the first one.
The rescue team had no chance as to kill him though, cause he attacked them.
Vinzor Quote:interesting, it seems that the whole story of this ragnarok game follow from the manhwa i assume, the sad part is the manhwa stopped to early??
btw dopelgangger looks like this from quest unlucky emerald
and he appears in geffen map ..
Soul` Quote:Not sure if it's been asked already, but I'm curious anyway.
Does anyone know the story behind the kid in Ice Dungeon? The one where after you defeat Ktull, the portal to "level 4" opens, where there's a kid encased in ice. It says Ktullanux was 'trying to protect him' or something. It looks like his clothes are reminiscent of the robes the people in Rachel Temple wear. Anyone know anything on it?
Twilights Call Quote:The boy in Ice Dungeon 4 is indeed the pope's twin sister.
The pope in Rachel is selected based on her likeness to their depiction of Freya; specifically, silver hair, one red and one blue eye, light complexion, etc etc. When the current pope was born (we never learn her actual name do we?) she was almost perfect, except for the fact that she had a twin brother. The pope could only be a girl, so it was unthinkable for there to be a male pope, so thats how they decided which of the twins would actually become the pope, but the High Priests of the Sanctuary also believed that if the public knew of her twin brother, it would detract from her divine nature in the eyes of the common people.
With that in mind, since apparently killing children is atleast beyond them, the High Priests of the Sanctuary sealed the boy in the Ice Cave, demanding that Ktullanux guard him to prevent anyone from discovering his existence. Threatening to destroy the entire ice cave if he didn't, Ktullanux reluctantly took on the job of guarding the boy, which is why you have to defeat him before you can get to Ice Dungeon 4, and why when you defeat him his last words are asking you to protect the Ice Cave ("Please save this place from Thor's fierce fire!" or something like that).
Thats all stuff I pieced together from memory, pretty sure its mostly accurate though xP
After some people asked about Glast Heim and Endless Tower....
By TwilightsCall Quote:Dark Lord, Naght Seiger, and Baphomet were all very, very high ranking demons in the Fiend Realm (think on the level of King or Warlord or something). However, being in the fiend realm, it is not so simple to just 'appear' in Rune Midgard. Whatever happened at Glast Heim, a very, very weak incarnation of Dark Lord managed to appear there, and now haunts the place. The same with the Baphomet in the Hidden Temple, its just a weak incarnation, not the actual full-strength version of him.
During the sign quest,
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Serin attempts to hold a ritual using the power of the symbol of the nine realms to summon the real Dark Lord into Rune Midgard. However, thanks to the players meddling, she ends up failing and the player manages to defeat Dark Lord long before he is able to attain his full power.
As far as baphomet, not much information is given as to how he did it, but he certainly did manage to incarnate fully in Rune Midgard some time long ago in the past. After his brief reign of terror, what soon after became the monks of the Capitolina Monastery managed to weaken him enough to seal him away. With the true baphomet sealed away, only a very small amount of his power was able to leak out, which explains why the Hidden Temple Baphomet was so much weaker then the Sealed Shrine Baphomet.
With the ressurection of Satan Morroc, I'm not sure whether it was directly because of his meddling or a side effect of his resurrection, but something happened that weakened the seal on Baphomet to the point that HIS resurrection was imminent. Of course, with the whole world working hard to defend against Satan Morroc's invasion, there was no one left to help against Baphomet.
When the player arrives at the Abbey, it is really just in time (or too late, depending on who you are asking), as the monk there only asks for you to go down and strengthen the seal, not actually fight Baphomet. Of course, Baphomet breaks free, and you are forced to fight him at his full strength. Ridiculous aspd and movement speed, huge matk, immune to damage...it is somewhat understandable how he manages to be one of these three great evils from the Fiend Realm, despite only having ~4mil HP.
As far as Endless Tower goes, as most people have probably already figured out, the story revolves around Naght Seiger and Entweihen. Naght Seiger was a demon of about the same rank in strength as the original Dark Lord. However, while Dark Lord specialized in magic, Naght Seiger specialized in physical combat. However, as can be expected, having a high rank means there will be people who want to take that rank from you for themselves, thus Entweihen. Entweihen was a lesser ranked demon who desired the position held by Naght Seiger. In order to take it from him, he created Endless Tower and began gathering all the strength in the world in order to bring him down, hence all the monsters from various places all being in the tower together. Realizing far too late what Entweihen was planning, Naght Seiger had very little he could do to stop him, and he could only sit and wait as Entweihen continually became stronger and stronger. Then, whether the Endless Tower appeared in Rune Midgard as some sort of trick of Naght Seiger in a desperate ploy for self defense, or whether it was already there and the player's intervention was pure chance, the player arrives at the Endless Tower and begins fighting there way up shortly before Entweihen launches his attack on Naght Seiger. The player then ends up not only clearing out all the monsters Entweihen had gathered there for his attack, but killing Entweihen himself. Eventually, Naght Seiger himself challenges the players once they prove themselves strong enough to do it all over again, and ends up being defeated himself.
By Autumn Quote:One of the readable books, the Rune Royal Family Book, is about the king of Glast Heim, Walter von Schmitz--who shares his name with the king who established the Royal Guards which is kinda proof that RGs are members of an evil cult.
According to the book, he used to be the king of Rune-Midgard, but went insane in his middle years. He lived in decadence funded by taxes, had Glast Heim built when he became unsatisfied with the palace in Prontera, and, in his later years, turned to sacrificing people to demons in order to obtain immortality.
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Clearly an insane tyrant in his twilight years, King Schmitz sacrificed humans to demons in hopes of attaining immortality. He was finally overthrown in A.W. 529 by his cousin, Grenholm Von Gaebolg, that led a coup de etat against him. Grenholm's rebel troops defeated the royal army, and advanced unopposed to Glast Heim Palace. Upon entering Glast Heim Palace, Grenholm's soldiers encountered a demon army that King Schmitz had summoned from hell. Many of Grenholm's soldiers perished in the violent struggle, but they eventually triumphed over their enemies. They saw the extent of King Schimtz's lunacy when they finally captured him in a small tower in Glast Heim Palace: his body was mutated and misshapen since he had experimented on it in his quest to attain the immortality enjoyed by demons.
The ward captain entered the captive king's room a few months later, and found that Schmitz had vanished. There was a large scale investigation, and it was discovered that the king used a mysterious demonic power to hide in his room's mirror.
And he apparently turned into a Dark Frame. No mentions of Baphomet or Dark Lord by name, but we can assume?
An off-topic aside: he's also the one responsible for the construction of the Izlude Arena, "to showcase adventurers that would kill demons for sport."
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