Quick point to ponder: We don't have the full list of iRO BG gears, so stop talking about 3rd classes and how things work with them and their specific BG gears. We don't have them, your point, although valid on a server with 3rd classes and BG gears, is about as worth while as trying to pay your electric bill by telling the electric company that you'll send them some zenny instead.
And as for this conversation that has recycled around about a billion times through the history of this game in different variations and forms the argument is a super form of paper rock scissors.
The arguments break down to one of the following:
-Get better gears and you'll win.
-Use more consumables and you'll win.
-Have more people on your side and you'll win.
-Know how to use your class and you'll win.
One other variation on this include an increase of levels trumping whatever your problem might be, but that doesn't fit into a specific spot, it's just a general catch all. Get more levels than the other people and you can trump their gears, skills, mob, and consumables.
It is not exclusively one or the other that make a strong WoE guild, it's a mix of all of them. You can get 76 people online for WoE pushing, but if they don't know what they're doing it's useless. One does not trump the other, they are more or less balanced in how to do well.
Everyone has a different way of playing a WoE character. There are some generic ideas out there that are strongly suggested like thara frog and f.berets. However, when it comes down to which gear set is the best, and how exactly to go about what you like doing the best, there is no right answer. Sometimes people want to think outside of the box. Sometimes people don't want to wear thara because they think they have something better. To say that your way is the right and only way and the rest of the ideas are invalid is just setting yourself up for ridicule.
Back to the point of this thread-
This is not our WoE-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHC7wlAcgM And there's not a chance in the world that it could ever be our WoE
This is a little bit more of the flavor of our WoE-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLKttUivEh0 And no amount of 'you noobs need to (insert argument here)' will change that because there's just not the desire for people to come and join.
What's going to bring new people in? What's going to give a new person the desire to give HeRO WoE a shot?