Add WSS to Bee wing!

[Seth~]

@Merellis I believe I am getting to understand the basis behind your argument.

You basically want to dramatically alter the item drop list and formula to make it more fair, to justify the exclusion of wss. This is while you wish items like karvo to remain.

I wonder if I should have numbered points listed.
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In the first response to a point made you

Okay lets say they're added to Bee Wings.

thus you agree with me on leaving wss out of bw is unfair since it is used much more in comparison to other skills. You then go on about the dropping formula that should be used in bee wings, you made a point about not using bw effectively. So you basically argue that we all should forget about items that we want and farm items like karvo.
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You're warping that much and land on another Warp Portal that kicks you out? Hilarious!
As for the item that gets you into the Underground? Heaven forbid that you have to go kill a couple Clock Tower Managers or Elders.
There's walking involved in a dungeon? THE HORROR THE HORROR! D:

You basically say that wss should be kept out & all the items that drop at 100% (which are easier to farm in comparison) must be removed.
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You later go on saying that you want to dramatically alter bw since you can farm those items from monsters at 100%. Ok to rephrase you agree with me the exclusion of wss from the current bw is unfair or bias, since this does not promote balance between classes.
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About the bathory card. It was anothers argument, at least you agree that the edition of wss to bw would not dramatically effect the economy related to the cards price.
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About the zeny zink again someone elses argument.
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Mining is not really a good place to gain these particular items seeing as how they have a low rate of appearing and you're more likely to get something you should just NPC then you are to get everything you want for your Forging.

And it isn't a replacement for Brewing seeing as how Fish can only be used in a PVM setting and not in WoE or BG, hell even certain fish aren't allowed into ToH. So this once again isn't an argument for or against WSS in Bee Wings. Moving on.

Mining refers back to the GM's post it. Basically blacksmith/some other classes has a item generator to increase the circulation of class based items. While wss does not have a item generator. That is unfair in the long list of current mods that adds class based items.

Its quite funny we would not be having this discussion on fish if its role was not altered.
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Then you go on about GM related decisions. I guess you would add karvo in the first place to bw.
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xD I made on mistake on the placement of bias.
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Regarding the wish list of items that could be added to bee wings. First you agree that wss exclusion from bee wings is bias. You are just trying to counter my argument by saying that then this long list should be added too. On the long list of items that could be useful each should have its time and place, aka not necessarily in bw. Still having item generators for everything else. This does not address the bias nature of why wss does not have a balanced item generator.
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I say you and me agree to disagree and just leave this thread alone for the GM's to ponder over.

I think we are getting to that point, however not just yet.

Why? Because you'll never concede and I'll never concede. Because if WSS make it in I will still argue that they and other items shouldn't really be there. If they don't make it in you will still argue that they should be in.

A feeling in the back of your head...i just can not loose. Well i have a feeling that it is the process that matters the end result is a mystery in this case.

This entire discussion has gone on a merry go round long enough so lets just end it and stop wasting time with these ridiculous posts.

totally agree.

In conclusion. You would rather dramatically alter bw in order to justify wss exclusion from bw/or other item generators. While you leave in items like karvo, that does not equate to balancing bw. Since as previously pointed out karvo's inclusion in bw probably have a more damaging effect than the inclusion of wss. Aka you'd promote items that does not fit into your profile. Just to promote other item generation for other classes, that is bias.

@someone else: retract bw didnt someone say that would be too hard & unfair.
@Gojira lol.
@Merellis totally agree.
@Aaronock hugging. xd That would be nice, as long as he/she is cute.
@ChaosPrince xD I made one mistake on the wording of bias, and as most know it was my post 2nd draft.