yacsef Wrote:I actually enjoy DG parties, not the ones with 3 wizards and??5 leechers, the normal parties where everyone knows what to do or learn what to do. If DG is boring for you because you camp the entrance, you can walk, you know. All this to say that DG doesn't make the game easier, it's actually a good way to learn the basics of some classes.
Though, i highly suggest people to learn how to do different dungeons, there is almost no difficulty in DG, except for some classes, like the lure (and it's not even that hard). Having to go to Thor may teach the priests how to pneuma and recover, the profs how to save parties from ninjas by webbing, etc. And people say that DG is stupid because the only thing you need is a bathory . Well it's almost the same with thors, you only need a pasana for some classes. Thors also has some useful gears (some of the bests).
So, i don't find DG OP or anything like that, and nerfing it would make people go nameless. And to be honest, nameless is easier than DG.
An unskilled player is going to be an unskilled player no matter where they go. I still see a lot of parties wiping at DG because their wizards don't know how to control mobs and quag or their dispel rushes foolishly at valks trying to dispel without gust cover. This facts holds true in other parties too. I see priests that don't know to pneuma to block ranged attacks and evil land or use sanctuary to make mass healing easier.
As far as the argument for nerfing DG I think the only thing that should be done is to impose higher level restrictions like bio 3 or thanatos tower. This will force players to work a little harder to get to DG and explore new exp areas instead of the usual ice dungeon to 80 then go to DG and WIN. Of course any kind of change like this would never happen because of all the crying and rage quitting that would happen. But who knows nameless and mosc didn't use to have any pre-req quests back then. Some pre-req quests or restrictions could be added to DG in the future.
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