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Disabling ^_^
Jack Skellington Offline
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RE:??Disabling ^_^
Bloody Wrote:You have a point there about the zeny, but you have to understand that not everyone is willing to buy OBBs, BBs, OPBs, WMs...etc.

OCAs are fast moving items, they sell so fast it isn't even funny... But there is no need to go as low as picking on the donation list itself. Pandora is not charging us to play, and she often pays for things to improve the stability of the server. If the donation pack was bad, players won't have an incentive to play. And let's face it... How many people are willing to donate purely out of their "love" for the server and not for the items/reward?
Besides those people who donate, sell the items, end up returning the zeny.

Let me describe you a small circle:

ABC donates $100, and earns 60mil zeny from selling the donation items.

ABC needs equips now, the basics:

Hydra - 3~4 x 4mil ea
Thara Frog - 1 x??8mil+ ea
Matyr OR Verit - 1 x 10+mil ea
AoA OR Ghost Bandan OR Evil Wings OR Angel Wings OR...etc - 1mil + ea
Glove[1] / Brooch[1] / Ring[1]...etc - 1mil to 4mil for a pair of slotted accessories
Pest / Rybio / Disguise - 2 to 10 mil ea
Elven ears - 15mil+ ea

That person ends up buying things from people, and the zeny ends up being pumped back into the community. Take a wild guess where most of those cards come out from? You got that right, OCAs.

The issue at hand is BBs, so let's think about BBs again:
- They spawn Angeling/Deviling/Ghostring/Arch Angeling sometimes.
- The party that spawns the MVP can't necessarly handle the spawned MVP.
- We are talking about 0.03% chance.


I hope you get the point, if you don't... Pity Icon_sad

We will never know as long as such donating items exist.

You also have to consider, you don't have to do anyhting ingame to earn that zeny, so pretty much you pumping in zeny without any work ingame.

That is being presumtious, cards can still be obtained the old fashioned way, earning them through farming monsters.

That itself also brings up a few more issues,
say for example, a champion gets a hold of a bunch of Bloody Branches, goves to a private DB room, and jsut spams fish as he asuras each MVP to death.??Doesnt that seem a little easier to farm bosses? Its not only boss cards you get from MVPs, there are also other items which in turn can be used to make more zeny to support farming more bosses obtained via donation which in itself increases chances to get boss cards those giving the privilaged power whereas people who don't have the same opprotunity are out of luck. 0.03% Chance still adds up when you have more monsters to kill, thus more opprotunity.

Now that is just being condescending.~

GM-Pandora Wrote:Everything is obtainable in game. Wrapped Mask from the Hatter in case you're wondering. Bloody Branch from event, there is another way also but no one has discovered it yet.
Sure this can be a boost to a newcomer, I'm not saying otherwise, but nothing out-of-this-world, certainly not something that gives donators the edge over non-donators in PVP/WoE. In fact, if you look in the Donator list, most players with their names there don't event pvp/woe, they simply donated because they love the server and want to help.

Balance is one of our main concern on heRO. I think our donation system is very far from unbalanced, specially if you compare it to other servers who sell mvp cards, godly items or custom +10 stats gears.

It being obtainable in game is not the only issue with the donation items, its the fact you dont even have to do anything ingame to get them.

Money itself is an advantage.

If that was true then there would be no need to give items for donations.

If it is the main concern, then it should be balanced. But when you have power based on real world money-then it cannot be balnced by the very fact not everyone has the same opprotunities to donate. True the donation system is different than that of other servers, but to gain ANYTHING through donation spoils some aspects of the game. If balance was an issue, everyone would be equal, whether they can afford to donate or not.
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(This post was last modified: 11-02-2007, 03:06 PM by Jack Skellington.)
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Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 12:53 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Beeman - 11-02-2007, 01:23 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 01:37 PM
RE:??Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 02:02 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-02-2007, 01:42 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 01:45 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 01:46 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 01:48 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 01:52 PM
RE:??Disabling ^_^ - by Jack Skellington - 11-02-2007, 02:00 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Aaronock - 11-02-2007, 02:08 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-02-2007, 02:14 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 02:19 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-02-2007, 02:23 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 02:25 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Jack Skellington - 11-02-2007, 02:27 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 02:28 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 02:29 PM
RE:??Disabling ^_^ - by Jack Skellington - 11-02-2007, 02:36 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-02-2007, 02:51 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 02:54 PM
RE:??Disabling ^_^ - by Jack Skellington - 11-02-2007, 03:02 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 03:09 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-02-2007, 03:16 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-02-2007, 03:17 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-02-2007, 03:22 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by teOx - 11-02-2007, 04:45 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-02-2007, 07:08 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by teOx - 11-02-2007, 07:53 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Kenkaru - 11-02-2007, 08:00 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by G?n?ral_Argos - 11-02-2007, 11:03 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Asumi - 11-03-2007, 02:21 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-03-2007, 03:21 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Namine - 11-03-2007, 03:41 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by betrthnu - 11-03-2007, 04:10 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Kenkaru - 11-03-2007, 05:28 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-03-2007, 11:11 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Asumi - 11-03-2007, 11:13 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-03-2007, 11:14 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-03-2007, 11:15 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-03-2007, 03:49 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-03-2007, 06:50 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-05-2007, 10:07 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-05-2007, 10:10 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Sekaru - 11-05-2007, 10:12 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Ultima_Pi - 11-05-2007, 11:05 AM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-05-2007, 01:19 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Master Chief - 11-05-2007, 04:48 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by Bloody - 11-05-2007, 05:16 PM
RE: Disabling ^_^ - by GM-Pandora - 11-05-2007, 05:59 PM

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