god items discussion

[Kiaro]

I must say I am very pleasantly surprised. I thought a lot of people who had worked very hard would be vehemetly opposed, as is perhaps obvious in how I posted. Not a slight at anyone, it's just hard to part with a lot of invested time/effort.

I agree that a long term interest needs to exist, and it seems that god items may not be a sufficiently balanced answer. I had not even considered things like endless tower, which especially on a server like this will pose a near infinite challenge since it's unlikely we'll see someone beat the top mvp any time soon.

I do think people should be rewarded for holding woe castles, holding castles long and effectively enough to get god item components. Sadly there's no 'trying to get certain castles for certain god items' thing like if we had all castles open (population issue, lesser of two evils, etc etc) but it's still a lot of work. I think if a lot of thought was put into how to reward players, we could come up with something that wouldn't put a looming shadow on a server like two megengards would.

Off the top of my head, has anyone heard of mystical card albums? They contain a lot of miniboss cards. angeling, deviling, ghostring, gemini but also a much higher chance to get rocker, vocal, mastering etc. These were handed out to guilds for getting high points with the scoring system iRO introduced to woe (among other things I think.). Some system of trading X god components for X mystcal card albums is just an example off the top of my head - not seriously proposing it, but showing how things could conceivably be changed up and be rewarding while still not forever alienating the server. Afterall, angeling/ghostring/deviling and the likes all have glaring big weaknesses along with their wonderful strengths in a woe environment and some superb pvm applications. This does not create a gap anything like god items would, when even the newest player can use 1 bait, get an OCA, open it and get a ghostring (unlikely, but possible).

A solution like that would be nice, I think it's worth talking about.

It's also worth talking about god items if anyone feels they are not broken, or would benefit the server. I understand it's not a complete open and shut case, so I don't want to seem dismissive and automatically pushing aside the idea of god items, I think I do it for good reasons and a discussion about it would help show that (and if I'm wrong, I'll find out! And god items would be allowable, and that'd be a fine outcome too.)