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RE: god items discussion

There are a few things which I feel need to be cleared up in this thread.

First is that God item quests make a difference. They don't. There are a multitude of servers which have the valk god item NPC in pront. You bring the materials and the npc gives you the item. Do god items flow like water on those servers? Hell no. The quest to make a god item is a lot easier compared to actually obtaining the items. If a guildmaster has spent YEARS building up a guild and has been lucky enough to rise to the top. A quest will NOT stop them from that long sought after prize.

Second is that God items are only a matter of time. I would not put it so lightly. This game is about EFFORT. Let's say you had a castle and didn't put any effort into playing. Are you going to be on every time a castle box spawns? Probably not. Are you going to be on to inspire your guildmates during WoE? Recall? Probably not. Are you going to keep that castle without effort? Hell no. Can't really make a god item without a castle can you? Not only that but you can't make a god item without keeping that castle for months and months and months. Eco costs loads of money too. You also have to be lucky enough to get god items which are used to make the item you want. On top of ALL that you can't let your guild die to drama, you can't let your SERVER die to drama, and now it seems you gotta keep people from nerfing those items you worked so hard to get (and you gotta keep drama out of that one too). That's A LOT of effort if you ask me. Don't kid yourself and say that any random noob can make a god item if he puts enough 'time' into it or that 'its only a matter of time [before we are overrun by god items]'. It's not word for word what you said but it's how you've come across. Making it sound easy is an insult to every player who has ever made a god item.

Third is that God items are unbalanced. I've already established that god items take a lot of effort to make. This effort effectively throttles the amount of god items that will ever appear on the server. You say that even one person can make the difference during WoE on heRO. Yet you still mention times where it was a group effort. Machi breaking a precast? A pointless act on it's own but with an attacking force to back him up then it's trouble. But it's easily countered if the people on the defending side are organized and properly geared. Even with sleip and double meg a SinX is still just a single SinX. He will do a great job of killing people one on one but he's not going to survive a good precast without a team to back him up. We already see sufficient precasts on heRO so I KNOW god items aren't going to make an insurmountable difference in WoE. One person might contribute significantly to a group either failing or succeeding but alone they don't turn the tide of WoE.

If anything was unclear just ask.

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07-21-2008 05:08 PM
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god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-20-2008, 05:01 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-20-2008, 07:34 PM
RE: god items discussion - Aaronock - 07-20-2008, 09:11 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-20-2008, 09:51 PM
RE: god items discussion - JJJ - 07-20-2008, 10:10 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-21-2008, 05:21 AM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-21-2008, 06:33 AM
RE: god items discussion - exwing - 07-21-2008, 06:40 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-21-2008, 07:38 AM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-21-2008, 07:53 AM
RE: god items discussion - exwing - 07-21-2008, 08:19 AM
RE: god items discussion - Ryxingeir - 07-21-2008, 10:11 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-21-2008, 12:12 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 07-21-2008, 12:28 PM
RE: god items discussion - Intern-Belial - 07-21-2008, 12:37 PM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 07-21-2008, 12:53 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 07-21-2008, 01:18 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 07-21-2008, 04:42 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kadar - 07-21-2008 05:08 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-21-2008, 06:00 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-22-2008, 04:50 AM
RE:??god items discussion - teOx - 07-22-2008, 12:56 PM
RE: god items discussion - exwing - 07-22-2008, 05:02 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kadar - 07-22-2008, 03:46 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-22-2008, 04:36 PM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 07-22-2008, 05:10 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-22-2008, 05:42 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-22-2008, 06:53 PM
RE:??god items discussion - Kadar - 07-22-2008, 07:31 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-22-2008, 07:41 PM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 07-22-2008, 07:54 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-22-2008, 08:26 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 07-22-2008, 08:49 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-22-2008, 08:45 PM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 07-22-2008, 08:45 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-22-2008, 09:21 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-22-2008, 11:14 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-23-2008, 04:52 AM
RE: god items discussion - Eldakar - 07-23-2008, 05:15 AM
RE:??god items discussion - Nidsrule - 07-23-2008, 07:03 AM
RE: ??god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 11:54 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 07-23-2008, 06:14 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-23-2008, 06:32 AM
RE: god items discussion - MagnusKain - 07-23-2008, 08:39 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kiaro - 07-23-2008, 09:51 AM
RE: god items discussion - Kadar - 07-23-2008, 01:36 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 01:41 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kadar - 07-23-2008, 02:13 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 02:56 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 07-23-2008, 03:08 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 03:30 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 03:32 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 03:34 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 03:36 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 03:39 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 03:41 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 07-23-2008, 03:42 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 03:54 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 03:44 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 03:49 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 07-23-2008, 04:09 PM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 07-23-2008, 04:14 PM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 08-01-2008, 05:13 AM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 08-01-2008, 06:44 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 08-01-2008, 06:52 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 08-01-2008, 05:17 AM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 08-01-2008, 05:32 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Ayu - 08-01-2008, 05:57 AM
RE: god items discussion - G?n?ral_Argos - 08-01-2008, 07:36 AM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 08-02-2008, 07:09 AM
RE: god items discussion - exwing - 08-01-2008, 07:48 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 08-01-2008, 09:06 AM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 08-02-2008, 07:15 AM
RE: god items discussion - thecursed - 08-02-2008, 01:15 PM
RE: god items discussion - Bloody - 08-02-2008, 01:42 PM
RE:??god items discussion - thecursed - 08-02-2008, 03:31 PM
RE: god items discussion - Jasper - 08-02-2008, 04:12 PM
RE: god items discussion - Jasper - 08-02-2008, 02:03 PM
RE: god items discussion - Yuriohs - 08-02-2008, 02:48 PM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 08-02-2008, 06:21 PM
RE: god items discussion - Bloody - 08-02-2008, 08:06 PM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 08-03-2008, 09:06 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 09-22-2008, 02:31 PM
RE: god items discussion - Bloody - 09-22-2008, 02:34 PM
RE: god items discussion - teOx - 09-22-2008, 02:35 PM
RE: god items discussion - Aaronock - 09-22-2008, 03:26 PM
RE: god items discussion - KohakuSan - 09-22-2008, 04:37 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kretzer - 09-22-2008, 08:39 PM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 09-22-2008, 08:53 PM
RE: god items discussion - Kretzer - 09-23-2008, 12:11 AM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 09-23-2008, 02:05 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Vanadis - 09-23-2008, 04:36 AM
RE: god items discussion - GM-Pandora - 09-23-2008, 10:18 AM
RE: god items discussion - mahawirasd - 09-24-2008, 09:41 PM
RE: god items discussion - Aaronock - 09-25-2008, 12:40 AM
RE: god items discussion - Avalon_Fates - 09-25-2008, 07:13 AM

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