"General" PvP Rules Agreement

[The Legendary Joe]

Kretzer Wrote:

Ahura Wrote:

Kadar Wrote:The combination of Cicada, Tatami, and hide -> jump.??You're for the most part immune to all non-trans attacks.??If people know very specific anti-ninja strategies then they should do fine with certain non-trans but if you're a really well geared ninja you could counter.??I would assume that is the reason.??Trans have more skills which can counter ninjas and even then ninjas can give trans trouble.??Thus ninjas are in the trans category.

to be fair with the amount of damage gs can do and the amount of builds for it i would really say the same goes for gs and to be fair fact is its easy to kill ninjas nearly all classes have skills that can go through cica and if they don't their trans for the most wouldn't. my point is a good gs would have as much as easy time as a good ninja would with none trans ive seen quite a few gsers that can 1hit ko most non transed >.> and trans >.>


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also wanted to add hell even super novices are more over powered then ninja in my opinion

You could'nt be more wrong.
Im a PvP lover, i spend most of my free time in the PvP rooms, so i can tell you i know from experience that Ayu's choice to take TK's and Ninjas to Trans class was completely acturate.

Ninjas Are way overpowered if you compare them to non-trans Jobs.
A Ninja can make Knights and Monks completely useless.
Also their fast Spells and Shurikens and cancel out any kind of spell a Wizard tries to cast while dealing a serious amount of Damage.

Supernovices don't have that kind of defense, even with great damage reductions their HP is quite lower than a Ninja.

Monks still have a chance of fighting back though it's pretty funny to watch and it works out to who's smarter really(lol Holy light spamming monks ftw). Knights can get lucky with Bowling bash, as it's 2 hits takes up 2 out of 3 hits of??Ciceda's duration.

The only classes I can think of that don't have much of a chance vrs ninja are Bards/dancers, and Blacksmiths.

Sure Bards could lol-fight and use dissonance, or??rely on frost joker like they usually do, but dancers don't have that.

Blacksmiths only have attacks that do all the damage in one hit (unlike knights bowling bash) then they have to walk over and try again, giving ample time for the ninja to recast. Unless some lucky smith has??a tomohawk, and is a axe throwing fiend, there's no way he/she'd be able to touch a ninja.

As for shurikens, Frost driver, Soul strike, and Fire Pillar (when maxed, it's instacast trap that CAN be placed Right underneath a player or monster) are not only fun but effective for putting the hurt on them.

Sometimes,??(after training one I know) a ninja's SP is it's own downfall.??and ciceda is fairly expensive to cast.