Zeny Guide

[loveapples]

Apparently, you dont even need 50 Fishing points for the Adv Spot, just that you'll get garbage from there.

Fishing loses bait per try, Mining breaks pick rather randomly.

I'd tried stuffing my cart full with picks once and broke all of them, but i got all my pick zeni back from npc plus lots more ore to keep or sell to players.
I'd done the same with baits but almost 60% of them are guppies, 20% is etc. junks, the 20% consists of lotsa bass and trout, hardly any salmon and pitiful amount of angel. I didn't finish all those baits at once since i got too severely fat half way.

Of course, i'd just started out so the things i got can't be too great. You need to invest lotsa points in order to get better fish or ore, and it takes one helluva time and zeni to get those points.(I broke all those picks and only got 2 points, but used all those baits and got 20+ points, it's really random.)

Well of course, you're at the beginner spot. Most of the topics discussed have been in reference to the Adv Spots(Fishing/Mining).

On my fishing runs, the junk I get usually adds up to about 100-200k which is like 15k for 100 baits... *calculations*... Well, do the math yourself. =_=

Plus, using the Fishing Hat helps quite a bit.

[Aaronock]

Yah the need for 50 fishing points was taken out at some point.
I tested it and proved it with a random character of mine when looking over the fishing article on wiki.

[BigBruce]

Yah the need for 50 fishing points was taken out at some point.
I tested it and proved it with a random character of mine when looking over the fishing article on wiki.

Do you know if this is the same for Mining?

Edit: i added this to the fishing method