New Player Moderators. Important?

[Aqualys]

Okay, I'll be brief here. This guy's been spamming @main for HOURS now. Now, I'm sure the guy's been reported multiple times by now, so there's no point for me to report him as well. It's been done already. But, where are the player moderators that used to keep our @main clean?

Nowadays, I very rarely see player moderators online, and this is not the first time I see borderline conversations on main, or spammers like this guy. I wanted to write this topic a week or two ago already, but now I felt like it became too important to hold back.

Furthermore, @main is a server-wide chat. Therefore, every single player that do not turn it off see everything that is being said on it. If I was a new player and saw someone spamming and flooding on @main, I'd have my doubts about the moderating, which is not a good way to start off on a server. This might make players leave prematurately(sp?).

I hope this suggestion will be taken seriously. I think it is an important matter.

[Ellie]

Aqualys Wrote:Nowadays, I very rarely see player moderators online,

Probably due to the fact that I think there are only... 3? left
More would be nice, but seeing some of the bull @main has tried to put mods though, with taunting and the such...

[Sakurato]

Ellie Wrote:

Aqualys Wrote:Nowadays, I very rarely see player moderators online,

Probably due to the fact that I think there are only... 3? left
More would be nice, but seeing some of the bull @main has tried to put mods though, with taunting and the such...

They have to put up with people like me D<!

I think I've made dani PM me about 5 times telling me to shut up since I've started playing again.

I also got muted by 3 times in like 5 minutes...yes mutes DO stack.

DOWN WITH MODERATION!


But really, what ellie says is a problem. Moderators need to be given @jail as well IMO. a 5/15/30 minute mute can only do much till the person realizes, "hey all they can do is mute me and I go afk."


Edit: Or the capability to DC people as in..they check in on their muted people making sure they are at the CPU and if they aren't..@kick! I know I would hate to get muted and HAVE to sit there. @jail is an easier option though :D

[The Legendary Joe]

While @jail would be a nice touch to a mod, people??can still flood main and spam from jail, unless they're muted, which just makes it more of a (oh,I can just go AFK and spam when i come back)

And it still wouldn't help much when we get those??occasional noob flamers that always seem to come around whenever panda goes on vacation or something that just switch characters and do it all over again to the point the GM's we do have??get tired of Jailing/muting/killing the dude over and over and over again to the point we have to be bribed to ignore the dude. B> More GM's with Ban powers

[Nythrazylyn]

When I first joined, I thought "Hey, an active @main, that's a nice touch!".. then after the first day or two my mindset changed to "Now how to I turn this **** off again?".

These days I only open @main to get a PC or ask for something, then again, I rarely get answers so it's turned off 99% of the time That being said, if all the spam were to die I'm sure me, and a few others who I'm sure feel the same way (you're out there, and I know it!) would turn @main back on.

Just my 2 zeny.

[Ellie]

Mods have been able to jail for a month now.
http://pandoraonline.net/forum/showthrea...076&page=3

[Aaronock]

Mods can jail, but I don't see much necessity for it.
I've been saying it, and I'll say it again, @main NEEDS to go, it is so heavily moderated, and this sort of stuff could easily be ended by...I dunno pulling the plug on it.

Yes mods deal with abuse, that's not why I resigned, cause I don't care how random idiots get their e-peen off, I knew how to stop it (generally with my own way without muting or breaking rules, I don't believe it should be used too often if you can help it). However most people aren't going to want to mod, and most won't have the skin to deal with it. Its not the same as being a GM, when a moderator, everyone knows who your player character is, there is no annonimty.

And no I won't get into why I fully resigned but I feel for months now that @main was GREAT when we were a smaller server, but at this point I think it is far outliving its usefulness and has degraded mostly to a spot to cause trouble, and players shouldn't be stuck to babysitting it like it has become.

[Ardney Wolf]

Main is still a great place for me to quote insane prices on easily obtainable items while having my requests for parties ignored. It doesn't need to go anywhere.

I agree with the general sentiments Aqualys is expressing, but finding the proper type of people to step up and do the job could be an issue. Scheduling, temperment, and interest are all factors. Fortunately, if main ever gets annoying it can be easily tured off.

[Pistis_Sophia]

Aqualys Wrote:Nowadays, I very rarely see player moderators online,

What are you talking about? I'm almost always online

Sakurato Wrote:(...) a 5/15/30 minute mute can only do much till the person realizes(...)

:arrow:For a matter of explanation. I'ts not 1 then 5 then 15 then 30 minutes...

Warning might come with a 1~5min mute. (mute optional, depends on circumstance)(the whole warning is also optional on some circumstances)
I apply 5~15 minutes for a first mute, depending on the offense.
Second one goes 30~60 minutes depending on the offense as well.
Third, though it didn't happen yet, we are authorised to go furter with the delay, which mean hours of mute.
Still don't got enough? 4th mute I'd perma mute, with the need of a support ticket with apologies to be unmuted.

The Lengendary Joe Wrote:While @jail would be a nice touch to a mod, people??can still flood main and spam from jail, unless they're muted, which just makes it more of a (oh,I can just go AFK and spam when i come back)

Of course you can say "oh it doesn't matter all I have to do is go AFK" even if it's for hours. Try being AFK for 99999 minutes

Sakurato Wrote:But really, what ellie says is a problem. Moderators need to be given @jail as well

Same applies to @jailfor as the can go AFK too.

Edited:
:arrow:There is a record of all the reports done. If we realise the same player cause trouble over and over, GMs will take proper actions.


Edited 2 :

Aaronock Wrote:I've been saying it, and I'll say it again, @main NEEDS to go,

I've been saying it, and I'll say it again, @main is the reason they need moderators.


Edited 3 :
Yeah Aqualys. I agree there's a need for the replacement of the ex-moderators JJJ and Aaronock.

[Galt]

Pistis_Sophia Wrote:What are you talking about? I'm almost always online

Really? I've been here for almost one year now, and I've NEVER seen you online until you starting getting on about 2 months ago, and I didn't even know you at all from any time prior to that, either.