Poll: Would any of these strike your fancy?
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For B) Derandomizing Castle Chests
Against B) Derandomizing Castle Chests
For C) A 3rd Castle (Geffen)
Against C) A 3rd Castle (Geffen)
For D) Time-based rewards for holding a castle
Against D) Time-based rewards for holding a castle
For E) WoE 3.0 Time-based WoE with its own time-slot
Against E) WoE 3.0 Time-based WoE with its own time-slot
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WoE Revitalization Poll
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RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll

GM-Azote Wrote:I'd rather hunt an hour than hide one hour to get stuff, especially if I can make it even more reliable exp-wise and item-wise.

Tell that to the fishermen and miners. Hiding/fishing/mining are not all that different. You can watch movies as you hide! Thus why it'll need to take more detail to see what's the balance of the rewards before commenting imho.

Quote:So you are saying that a castle left with zero economy has something attractive for a whole WoE rather than the last 5 minutes? I'm not quite sure of this.

All depends if the guild in question got the ability to defend for that day, or if they care about the woe rewards. If they can't defend and they know it, why not go on massive econ destruction to lower the amoutn of stuff the current owner will get, and force them to pay for econ. At the same time, if say the guild doesn't care about the treasures cause it's too cheap or too bad compare to their current equips or whatnot, then breaking is probably more fun than 1 hour of pressing SG/MS/Sight/Loki for the sake of doing it.

So it's not all "obviously" beneficial for one approach over another.

GM-Azote Wrote:From somebody who worked to customize the renewal Nidhoggur monsters, I'm quite surprised by your question.

What does nidhoggur have to do with renewal? Like I said, iro is getitng renewal this week, and they got nidhoggur and new world half a year ago. Only brasilis is the first dungeon that's on the fence for it being a renewal dungeon or not (Iara's HP varies from 68k, 27k or 6k, depending on how that particular official server handles it.) Please, anything from new world and on is NOT renewal. GM ought to know this. Renewal starts off for certainly with El Descartes, which is the next update in line in theory.

The last official non-renewal equip, excluding event hats like necromancer hood and contest hats like chewing pencil and drooping doddler, is the Falcon Blitz which I did try to release last time (but did not, due to sprite error), dropped by Cecil Damon and thus completing the 6 set of new equip for each of the bio mob. The next equip that's not a hat is heavy chrome sword, which is a rune knight and not a lord knight weapon, signifying the beginning of renewal on the next dungeon (brasilis has no new equip, making it even more of a grey area is it renewal or not.)

And it's exactly what you said that the question is worth asking... DO WE WAIT FOR RENEWAL OR NOT? If we are waiting for eA, does that mean we aren't going to get any form of updates except seasonal events until eA finally codes it? Even if eA codes it, are we going to get it anyway? If we aren't going to get renewal period, then what is left in the server for the future in terms of update or is this the end of the road?

Lots of valid questions to ask, with none of them being "obvious answers."

Quote:We are not on the edge of renewal mechanics and possibly very far from it. Until eAthena makes it avaible, it won't even be a question. We are not coding renewal by ourselves.

If you read the post... I didn't talk about the tech of getting renewal, but we're on the edge of renewal content in terms of updates. Any future 'default update' will result in say, renewal equips or monsters made for renewal mechanics. That's why, I am sure the server wants to know, are we waiting or not, and if we are waiting, does that mean no update except for seasonal equip and the once in awhile customized quest?


If a member of the GM team is defending certain decisions already, is it safe to assume that GMs already want things to go a certain way but is only asking for approval? If that is the case, can we hear just how exactly do the GMs want things to go? Sounds more like GMs are asking for permission to do something that we aren't entirely sure what it is about, and not so much on a brainstorming activity with the community.

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10-16-2010 04:50 PM
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WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Pandora - 10-11-2010, 02:29 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-16-2010, 02:50 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - RoChickita - 10-16-2010, 03:39 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Namine - 10-16-2010, 03:46 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Kharas - 10-20-2010, 07:40 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 10-16-2010, 03:48 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Incarn - 10-16-2010, 04:13 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-16-2010, 04:27 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 10-16-2010, 04:37 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Namine - 10-16-2010 04:50 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - thecursed - 10-16-2010, 04:27 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Vergil - 10-16-2010, 04:27 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - CapitalVoii - 10-16-2010, 04:29 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Corporal - 10-16-2010, 04:40 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Aaronock - 10-16-2010, 04:42 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Pandora - 10-16-2010, 04:47 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 10-16-2010, 04:53 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-16-2010, 04:47 PM
RE:????WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-16-2010, 05:07 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Izael - 10-16-2010, 05:53 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Snowhawk - 10-16-2010, 06:43 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Corporal - 10-16-2010, 06:50 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Izael - 10-16-2010, 07:11 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - mahawirasd - 10-16-2010, 07:27 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Split Ends - 10-16-2010, 08:05 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Adrillf - 10-16-2010, 09:19 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Landon - 10-16-2010, 10:22 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Salt - 10-16-2010, 10:28 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Aaronock - 10-16-2010, 10:44 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Adrillf - 10-16-2010, 10:35 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - azurerogue - 10-16-2010, 11:13 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Indra - 10-16-2010, 11:14 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Namine - 10-16-2010, 11:25 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Nidsrule - 10-16-2010, 11:49 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - thecursed - 10-16-2010, 11:54 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - mahawirasd - 10-17-2010, 01:08 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Spuznik - 10-17-2010, 06:51 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Corporal - 10-17-2010, 07:18 AM
RE:????WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-17-2010, 09:54 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 10-17-2010, 02:14 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Mara - 11-02-2010, 09:41 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Xeke - 10-17-2010, 06:48 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Ange - 10-17-2010, 08:38 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Balduron04 - 10-17-2010, 09:31 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - azurerogue - 10-17-2010, 11:13 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 10-18-2010, 03:54 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Namine - 10-18-2010, 12:14 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - azurerogue - 10-18-2010, 08:50 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 10-18-2010, 08:56 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - azurerogue - 10-18-2010, 09:49 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Ange - 10-18-2010, 10:44 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Sepharius - 10-18-2010, 12:41 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Rankin - 10-18-2010, 12:46 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Zaratus - 10-18-2010, 01:20 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Hiroishime - 10-20-2010, 08:18 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - mahawirasd - 10-20-2010, 08:44 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 10-21-2010, 06:40 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - azurerogue - 10-21-2010, 09:27 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 10-21-2010, 09:54 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Sepharius - 10-21-2010, 10:49 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Aaronock - 10-22-2010, 09:24 AM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - Namine - 10-22-2010, 07:18 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 10-23-2010, 03:24 AM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Azote - 10-30-2010, 09:50 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Dewy - 11-02-2010, 06:25 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 11-02-2010, 07:53 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 11-02-2010, 08:00 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 11-02-2010, 09:55 PM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - loveapples - 11-03-2010, 12:33 PM
RE: ??WoE Revitalization Poll - Antimind - 11-05-2010, 02:09 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - blimp - 11-03-2010, 07:50 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - blimp - 11-03-2010, 07:56 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 11-03-2010, 08:05 AM
RE:??WoE Revitalization Poll - mahawirasd - 11-05-2010, 06:27 AM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Shikari - 11-03-2010, 03:08 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Pandora - 11-30-2010, 06:21 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Aaronock - 11-30-2010, 06:35 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - GM-Pandora - 11-30-2010, 06:45 PM
RE: WoE Revitalization Poll - Incarn - 11-30-2010, 06:47 PM
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