@azurerogue : Where you get your players is considerably less important than keeping them. All of the ways to "pull" you suggested are viable. So?
If you think you can get 800(+500 for a weapon) points in BG without learning to play your class idk what to say. BG not only gears you it teaches you to play your class. Your debate on excellence is irrelevant.
@aldriff
Sinxes don't run agi in WoE for the most part(exceptions), they run vit, they have high HP mods and can easily get that HP, glorious set is +35% HP. Not only does it take a very well geared asura to kill you it also requires you to have max SP, something a lot of champs atm don't even bother with.
Champs are supposed to one shot you, if you make a champ it would one shot people, right?
Adrillf Wrote:For the rest of us that have to deal with the reality of well geared asuras and a lack of a 21k hp pool, you can't just say that BG gears are going to save our butts. BG gears are good, but they're not THAT good.
How many times must I say this.
They are.
BG gear is intended to make WoE about skill and numbers not gear, that is their purpose. The accumulation of mini boss and mvp cards is what made gravity design them in the first place. if you ignore it you are one of those people who whines about the problem while being slapped in the head with the solution.
Adrillf Wrote:Prove me wrong, make a HW that doesn't have a horrible matk or cast time, while still having that many reductions and that large of a HP pool, and I might start considering that your argument is valid, but I seriously doubt that you can.
The Warlocks set has a more than decent chance to turn ghost property for 10 seconds(with marc still working ofc).
Owned.?? \o/
Aside from that, Hwiz are supportive class in WoE, if you are trying to kill people chances are you are stupidly easy to be killed yourself, that's the trade off, you can't have your cake and eat it too.??Aside from that its not pvp, if you're a wiz you're not supposed to be rushing into a big mob of players to die, learn your class.
Not to mention if you DO try to kill people with a pure matk Hwiz, you will never ever succeed in killing people who have glorious gear and pot in a WoE build 1 on 1. In a precast properly protected by his guild mates is a int dex Hwizards place, not tanking asura on the front jeez.
ASIDE from that even if you WERE a int/dex Hwiz (that acknowledged the existence of that stat vit and the item white potion) with BG gear you would STILL be hard to kill outside of being gang banged or Asura'd.
BG gear may seem like a tiny 16% but let me tell you that I had pretty much 0 survivability without it. Raydric is worthless, so easy to bypass, the massive and attainable 58% demi human resistance(68% with a CK) is the order of the day.
Not to mention, all the supposedly OP people you talk about use BG weapons, champs use BG maces, sinxes and WS use BG katar and medals, Acid demo creators use bragi and medals(AD is suck without bragi on BG gear except it will break it lol FCP is a requirement).
BG weapons PENALIZE non BG gear. Their def piercing and huge racial modifiers mean anyone NOT wearing BG gear is almost surely dead(looks at some people on this forum).
All that and, everyone has to get their OWN BG gear, non transferable. This means if richer members gear their guild mates they cannot do so past a point.
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