Just for curiosity :3

[Bakorzero]

If we edit an aggro monster with sight range of 1000 cell, will it chase us even we are in the corner of a map ?

[Namine]

(03-24-2017 01:07 AM)Bakorzero Wrote:  If we edit an aggro monster with sight range of 1000 cell, will it chase us even we are in the corner of a map ?

Go find Tendrillion and see it for yourself

[Bakorzero]

I know that monster XD, I mean at least we can tele and it will stop chase us again right ? but what if tendrilion have 1000 cell sight range ? if we tele will he able see us no matter how far away we are from him ? will he still chase us ? given a condition that there is no other obstacle in map, it just plain flat map

[The Roger]

LOL tendrilion has 1 attack range, 10 spell range, and 200 of aggro sight range O_O i just noticed now wow

[Bakorzero]

(03-24-2017 06:35 AM)The Roger Wrote:  LOL tendrilion has 1 attack range, 10 spell range, and 200 of aggro sight range O_O i just noticed now wow

Woa really 0.0 ? even guardian only have 16 sight aggro range. Btw when I @mi wanderer, there are whimsical wanderer with 1000 sight range 0.0 what is that ?

actually what I want to say is that, if that mechanism work, there are probably some possibilities of mini games that we can create. Perhaps we can create mini game/event like zombie survival ? or maybe tower defense. If the monster have 1000 aggro sight range, they will chase you no matter where you are. For zombie survival, its just simply you have to survive waves of zombie hordes coming towards you. And for the tower defense let say you have to defeat super strong monster that aiming specific target, the monster might be very slow and have many slaves so you have some time to defeat them. If that specific target destroyed you and your team lost the game. Dunno if it is will work tho

[GM-Ciar]

Just tested with Garr, and while huge sight ranges are possible, the range for monsters to draw a path to the target is 30, so they can still see you, but they won't "know" how to get to you.

The idea of zombie survival is interesting though. Could get a choice of skill for your character (Bash, Thunderstorm, Heal, etc) to use in the extermination, for a bit of variety in strategy.

[Namine]

(03-24-2017 08:52 AM)GM-Ciar Wrote:  Just tested with Garr, and while huge sight ranges are possible, the range for monsters to draw a path to the target is 30, so they can still see you, but they won't "know" how to get to you.

The idea of zombie survival is interesting though. Could get a choice of skill for your character (Bash, Thunderstorm, Heal, etc) to use in the extermination, for a bit of variety in strategy.

Wonder if that was changed from eA to Hercules... in the past Tendrillrion has definitely ran over people who thought that fwing abuse is a viable strategy

[Bakorzero]

I guess Tendrilion can smell his prey upon couple of miles away
too bad its only 30 eh
btw what are some general differences between eA and Hercules system ?

[Namine]

I don't know even close to half of the changes since I haven't played until recently for a very, very long time. That's more up to GM team for sure. For starters though, I was informed that heal bomb works on undead property AND undead race, instead of just undead property.

(Not sure what happens for holy elemental undead race and other extreme edge cases like that.)


While we're on the topic, I'll like to know: do monsters use the spell's limits for cast range, or does a monster's spell range override its cast range?

Eg. Ifrit has attack range of 2. He has sonic blow which is internally range 1. If I tank Ifrit at cell range 2 where he can normal attack me, does he use sonic blow or not?

eA behavior: yes

Official server behavior 7 years ago pre-renewal: no

hercules/present day heRO: ????

[GM-Ciar]

Namine Wrote:While we're on the topic, I'll like to know: do monsters use the spell's limits for cast range, or does a monster's spell range override its cast range?

Just checked using a ranged mob with sonic blow. A monster's spell range can override a skill's natural cast range. Seeker can still stone curse from afar, etc. etc.

Namine Wrote:I don't know even close to half of the changes since I haven't played until recently for a very, very long time. That's more up to GM team for sure.

GM-Garr would have to answer this one. I did a quick search but most comparisons I found were to rAthena (Like these two).
I just know Hercules can use plugins, which makes life much easier. :D