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Bee Wing values seem way off
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Namine Offline
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Bee Wing values seem way off

So I did some mobbing in Geffen dungeon 3, which are all monsters from lv 40-49 except for Whisper. Monster level divided by 10, rounded down, gives 4.

According to the wiki, royal jelly has a variable of 160. Giving the benefit of the doubt that server rates do not apply to item generation, I got 6 royal jelly from killing 567 monsters (count of whisper is ignored for simplicity.)

The drop rate for royal jelly is ((160*4)+1)/100 = 6.41%, by the wiki's formula.

By binomial distribution, the chance of exactly 6 royal jelly at this drop rate over 567 monsters is 2.25*10^-8... It seems extremely unlikely that I am that unlucky.

So either my math is somehow wrong (in which case, please let me know what did I do wrong), or the wiki's formula is wrong somewhere... If the wiki's formula is wrong, we should probably fix the wiki.


Note: on the other hand, I got 36 honey... which is also wrong in the opposite direction: I got way too many. Did honey and royal jelly's value get switched around? The math actually works out then.
(This post was last modified: 04-10-2017 12:39 AM by Namine.)
04-10-2017 12:34 AM
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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

Server rates affect Bee Wings. I can say that with the medium level of Juperos's venatus (76), RJ rate is 33~34%.

Killing monsters lvl 40 should provide a 19% RJs.

Quote:Moblevel/10 = 40~49/10 = 4.1~4.9 = 4.0
Drop Chance = [-(-480)*4+1)]/100 = ~19% Royal Jelly drop chance.

this is the dropped item variable and its a negative value; originally -160 at rates 1x, -480 at 3x

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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

I know. It's just that getting to tripled value will make the calculations *even worse* cause now I have even 3 times less than it should... Thus why I said, giving the benefit of the doubt that somehow it's not tripled.
04-10-2017 10:21 AM
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then the only explanation is that you didnt pray RNGeesus enough this week u_u

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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

Thus why I already farmed until I hit 2.25*10^-8% chance to get this particular result before I report it ;__;
04-10-2017 10:44 AM
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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

Another GM took a look at the script. Apparently when you first complete the quest, your royal jelly variable becomes 6 instead of 160 like it is when you choose from the list later on. Just talk to the NPC and pick royal jelly again to get the right value. I've fixed that for next reboot.

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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

(04-10-2017 10:44 AM)Namine Wrote:  Thus why I already farmed until I hit 2.25*10^-8% chance to get this particular result before I report it ;__;

(04-10-2017 07:48 PM)GM-Ciar Wrote:  Another GM took a look at the script. Apparently when you first complete the quest, your royal jelly variable becomes 6 instead of 160 like it is when you choose from the list later on. Just talk to the NPC and pick royal jelly again to get the right value. I've fixed that for next reboot.

Good catch Nami and Chair, and sorry that you lost out on so much value. >.<;

04-10-2017 09:27 PM
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(04-10-2017 07:48 PM)GM-Ciar Wrote:  Apparently when you first complete the quest, your royal jelly variable becomes 6 instead of 160 like it is when you choose from the list later on.

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RE: Bee Wing values seem way off

Thanks Ciar and the unnamed GM xD; I'll talk to the queen bee again then try Bee Wing again then.
04-11-2017 09:22 AM
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