The problem with WoE is, as stated before, people don't like it when people tell them to work. Recently there was a new member to Behemoth that just joined the server. He constantly complained that he wasn't at the level of other sinx's in guild seeing as he was only a 8x sin. He would complain that leveling wasn't fast enough, that gear wasn't dropping fast enough, that he didn't have the cards, or anything like that. We'd tell him to work, and he wouldn't do a single thing. Doing nothing but complaining happens far too often.
As for new members on the server that are WoE active. They understand what it takes to do things. They understand what it takes to be effective in WoE, and they realize that the easiest way to be effective and worth while in WoE is to join a WoE guild, which only increases the major guilds. Why would a new person to the server, who knows what they need to do, start a new guild and try to organize a new group, when they could just add their number into an organized guild with a leadership already in place? If I was to start heRO, why would I want to start a new guild to WoE with when I could just join in the ranks of Behe/Seraph and already be in the active scene with them?
Sure WoE is accessible for new players. They access it through the already made guilds, instead of trying to torture themselves into making a new guild, leveling up themselves and the guild, all while trying to organize people, get gears, and teach people what they need to do.
The one thing that I don't agree with is. . .
mahawirasd Wrote:so yeah, if you wanna WOE, why don't start with non-trans?
Non-trans doesn't mean that it's easier. If trans WoE is kicking your butt, non-trans won't be any easier. The meta game is a bit different, and the way you get slaughtered is in a different form, but non-trans WoE isn't easier than trans WoE, it's just a different form. If you don't have a thara frog shield and feather beret to reduce at least a bit in trans WoE, then you still don't have a thara frog shiled and feather beret to reduce anything in non-trans WoE. Non-trans doesn't mean easier, it just means different.