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Noblity Powerup?
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RE:??Noblity Powerup?
Fruityla Wrote:[It's] failing to complete with older gears in cases. Not just newer.
You wouldn't buy red glasses for a whitesmith. In the same way, only some characters can use the gem well. It's just how the item is built.

Fruityla Wrote:Dumping hundreds of millions and losing my bonus and being forced to dump MORE is nothing like the shield thing at all. At least I don't run the risk of losing my Alice Buckler to someone else.
I admit the example was a hyperbole, but the issue remains that bars are continually raised over time, regardless of what was good in the past. Note: You refer to ranked nobility as your reference point, but that's only concerning 10 people on the server. Not every player wants to spend the cash to hit that extra point, so they may have just donated the buillions for one set status.

Fruityla Wrote:And uh, where do you see people trying to rank these days at all? That's holding ground to you? Hell, I don't think there's that many bothering to get nobility at all. That sounds like the zeny sink just failed epically to me. The fact there's a crapload of inactive people on there, who have been for ages, says that people don't bother with it anymore.
Actually, I've noticed the nobility announcement (regular nobility) pop up approx once a week lately. I don't really see that there isn't any interest in it. However, ranked nobility is truly meant just for those who have the money to throw around. It's like having ranked alchemists and blacksmiths - you have to have money / resources to be able to maintain your ranking.

Fruityla Wrote:It's because it's not worth it and we know it. And again, Why bother with Nobility, which is intended to be a zeny sink, at all when I can get the same or better in non-sinking ways without the risks nobility has. This is why I'm saying it needs an update, to make it worth our while again.
It obviously is worth something to someone, otherwise there wouldn't have been any new nobles lately.??It's still worth your while if you're looking for the one stat. However, I feel that asking for two stats just for regular nobility is poor.

Fruityla Wrote:I say either change the gems or the system. Honestly? prefer the latter. I guess I should have suggested that instead of to change the gems then huh? But I was trying to hold off on that for my own reasons and instead try to work with the current system.
I'd rather balance the new gears to our server (since it hasn't been set yet, and there's many things we can do to make it balance out). I don't see a point in changing the current system since no matter how you see it, the zeny sink is still working.

Fruityla Wrote:For ranking specifically, there was also trying to justify hundreds of millions being spent on it. The DEF and MDEF was supposed to achieve that, but whether or not it succeeds...I dunno.
Actually, just being on the list gives the two stats, so I actually believe that alone is enough justification to do so. The motivation to push higher on the list though, I don't really understand other than for the "lol i have money" part.

Fruityla Wrote:And you totally went through my thought process for the examples with the three stats and allowing stacking XD
I should probably have been a bit more clear with that example, since it was meant to be sarcastic. Having a custom gem that's as good as / better than an MVP card (stacking 2 dex on gem vs vesper card) is just stupid. Also, two stats on ranking is already really good. If you don't like it, just don't go for ranker.

If we just modify the stats and effects on gears we get from V4P correctly, there would be no reason to change the nobility quest.
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Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-08-2010, 04:23 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Zaratus - 06-08-2010, 04:38 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-08-2010, 07:33 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Rankin - 06-08-2010, 07:45 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-08-2010, 07:50 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Rankin - 06-08-2010, 08:06 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Ngjoko - 06-08-2010, 08:08 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-08-2010, 08:11 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Ngjoko - 06-08-2010, 08:14 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Rankin - 06-08-2010, 08:23 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-08-2010, 08:25 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Rankin - 06-08-2010, 08:36 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-08-2010, 08:54 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-08-2010, 09:03 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Corporal - 06-08-2010, 10:18 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-08-2010, 11:07 PM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by azurerogue - 06-09-2010, 12:23 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-08-2010, 11:10 PM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Corporal - 06-09-2010, 12:34 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-09-2010, 12:32 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Frogboy - 06-09-2010, 12:36 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-09-2010, 12:54 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Corporal - 06-09-2010, 12:57 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Trapper - 06-09-2010, 01:03 AM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-09-2010, 08:24 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Corporal - 06-09-2010, 01:06 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by WolfRaven - 06-09-2010, 01:20 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by mahawirasd - 06-09-2010, 01:37 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Fruityla - 06-09-2010, 02:37 AM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Corporal - 06-09-2010, 04:18 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Mort - 06-09-2010, 04:16 AM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Ultima_Pi - 06-09-2010, 07:21 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by Aaronock - 06-09-2010, 08:18 AM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Matsu - 06-09-2010, 08:49 AM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by Ultima_Pi - 06-09-2010, 08:50 AM
RE: ??Noblity Powerup? - by Trapper - 06-09-2010, 10:55 AM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by azurerogue - 06-09-2010, 12:09 PM
RE: Noblity Powerup? - by GM-Pandora - 06-09-2010, 08:13 PM
RE:??Noblity Powerup? - by WolfRaven - 06-10-2010, 09:40 PM

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