Sakurato Wrote:It's because at the time the??the person who made the mobs did not have the actual drops and stats.
Thanks for the answer :D!. This actually gives me hope. If the set was deliberately split to make it almost impossible to get and there were good arguments there would be no hope. But if this is just a result of a first implementation, if we present the proper and well-versed arguments we actually might have Dragon Manteau moved to something possible to kill by a 6-people-transcendent-party.
Fruityla Wrote::x That's if you can get people to get out of Nameless/Sphinx 4 to go there in the first place. Perhaps the suggested change can correct that?
I don't know... I have no problems with finding parties to any place I want ^^'. They are not 'the highest efficiency parties', but they are various, interesting and successful.
Please, accept our proposal... at least for read-only ;-). If you need details, I will gladly explain everything in PMs.
Corporal Wrote:I think it's fine as is. Skin of ventus + avian wings gives a similar effect anyways (it actually would turn out BETTER in terms of the flee, and matches the agi) for almost the same price as slotted underpants and pantie combo.
No, it does not work in the similar way.
Please consider the fact you usually require elemental armours in several locations. For example, it would be kind of funny to go to Thor1/3 without Pasana armour, Odin2 becomes much less difficult if you have a Bathory armour and I would just not take a non-99/70 stalker/sinX to Nidhoggur2 without a Bathory armour.
Avian Wings do not have a slot while Dragon Vest does. The fact Agi is a boolean defence (you are missed or you are hit and you (almost?) die) makes you really, really want the 80-95% flee range and monsters like Valk Incarnation in Dimensional Gorge kind of require an Agi holder to have a Bathory card. That is why we (me + T-chan) defaulted to the Undershirt[1] + Elemental Pantie set - easy to get (though horrible in cost), very customizable and gives really nice boni (bonuses?) in the area she needs.
Besides, no Valk Incarnation was kind enough to drop a SoV for us yet.
It is increasingly difficult to use Agi characters in the highest level dungeons and some people love playing those high flee characters. They do have a niche, as SW helps them a lot - and definitely HeRO has some neat customs which improve their potential (Evolved Small Ribbons, AdvMiniPropeller). Unfortunately, as you
really require elemental armours (Agi == ~3x~4x-ish vit == low HP/low pot efficiency) you cannot really use Avian Wings on a fleetank. In Thor1, yes - 95% flee makes only 1 FireBreath out of statisticaly 20 kill a holder and this we decided to be a fair trade, as exp gain exceeded exp loss considerably. But I don't see especially Nidhoggur2 without Bathory armour to the point even I (a non-tanking priest) had to get one.
SoV + Avian Wings might be superior for snipers in terms of Agi, but snipers are not fleetanks - they kill stuff. If you are a tank, your damage is not that important - your survivability and ability to aggro enemies is.
Besides, if SoV + Avians are that good in terms of Agi + flee, now I
really do not understand why Dragon Manteau should be a drop of a Nidhoggur MVP - there are alternatives, unless you are a fleetank and almost nobody parties Agi classes playing that way.
Btw, adding combo monks to the list of classes benefitting from Dragon combo.
Basically, this combo buffs the 'under-used' and underestimated PVM classes. Why break it? Why
not let them be more useful and give more choice than just SoV (which will always be hellishly expensive because of a drop rate and no newish player will ever be able to get it)?