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RE: Homunc questions! - wussypuff - 11-15-2007

i'll be brewing in my high 90's for best results. i'm currently farming the gear i need for greatest results! so save up your stuff :D

as far as homuncs go, i do stress they're not as game breaking as they're made out to be. all i ask is a fair AI program (COME OONNNNN MIR!!!) that's user friendly (for those like me that are coding dumb Icon_sad )


RE: Homunc questions! - Rhino_Man - 11-15-2007

no matter what AI you use, it is impossible for you to command lif or uh... the ram one to automatically attack players.??Even alt-right clicking is faulty most of the time.

Also, I have done some extensive coding on the homunculus AI program and have a severely modified MirAI program.??I know how hard it is to make it work (as I am a coder by proffession) and see no way to make it gamebreaking.??I have tried (I confess) to make auto-res and auto-feeding work via the homunculus AI and found it impossible to do under it's current limitations due to the way the feeding works in the first place.

Allow me to use my client is all I ask, for even WITH my heavily customized AI, it is impossible for me to make them automatically attack players.

The pros are even nicer about it because MY AI(and I'm sure a ton of other pre-built AIs too) ALSO differenciates between attacking an unoccupied target and KSing.??It leaves monsters alone when they attack another player unless I tell it to attack the monster.??What more could you ask for?


RE: Homunc questions! - Craix - 11-15-2007

maybe you could show your AI program to GMs so they can decide instead of just taking your word for it


RE: Homunc questions! - Rhino_Man - 11-15-2007

uhm, I would but I re-used a bit of code from my work and they have issues with me sharing it around. I asked before but they said I could so long as I don't intentionally show it to anyone.


RE: Homunc questions! - GM-Pandora - 11-15-2007

As it stands right now (and nothing is 100% decided), heRO AI will be recommended but not mandatory. Our AI will ensure that no server rules can be broken with it and will as user friendly as possible. If people decide to use their own AI and are found to break rules they will however be severily punished.


RE: Homunc questions! - wussypuff - 11-15-2007

wonderful!!! thank you SO MUCH Pandora :D

i'm actually looking forward to see what heRO AI is like.

can't wait :D

SO EXCITED ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


RE: Homunc questions! - GM-Pandora - 11-15-2007

We're still not done with odin and thor yet however, so don't get too excited Icon_wink We have other stuff to take care of first.


RE: Homunc questions! - Rhino_Man - 11-15-2007

doh, my favorite endgame gear needs some stuff from Odin!??... and Kiel..... and Abyss..... and Odin again.... and thana....


that being said, thanks for clarifying on the AI thing. Anyways, yeah, default AI is kinda crap, it's dumb as **** and tends to KS for magic blob and murder bird.

I tried it for all of 3 minutes before I decided to get something different.


RE: Homunc questions! - Kiaro - 11-17-2007

I'm so glad I read this topic! Afking while levelling is slow and kills intimacy, the best you can do is slow levelling while checking every few minutes Icon_biggrin

Apart from that, I'm /so/ glad to hear that HeRO AI isn't for sure mandatory, because one of my favourite things is playing with scripting/seeing what I can learn and trying to make things work. Taking that away would be sad.

MirAI is quite rules friendly too! It doesn't KS even if you command it to KS. And well, afk levelling... as I say you either stay at the keyboard to check up/feed with only short breaks or you go flat out afk and lose intimacy (needed for skills) and risk having the homunc run away and risk your alchemist dying and needing to respawn, and even if none of that happens it's still sloooow levelling.

People are wisely cautious, but overly so. I can't wait to get a homunc.


RE: Homunc questions! - wussypuff - 11-18-2007

GM-Pandora Wrote:We're still not done with odin and thor yet however, so don't get too excited Icon_wink We have other stuff to take care of first.

it's like the night before christmas...you know it's coming and soon you'll be able to open all your presents...

BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S TAKING FOREVER AND WILL NEVER COME D:

but it will....*waits somewhat patiently*