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RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Irxallis - 07-15-2010 04:56 AM
There are multiple dragon killers at Pront in 800k-1 mln range; you might manage to enslot one (for 2* Earth Petite cards. Not only pierces dragon defenses but ALSO +40% against dragons? Yummy).
Weeder knife: I sold a weeder knife +7 for 3.5 mln zeny (I had two). Inferring 250k-400k per a weeder knife?
Combat knife: this one is expensive. 30mln-ish range? No idea how much is it worth exactly.
Ice pick: too expensive, indeed. Look at an auction which is currently undergoing ;-)
And about swords and daggers... I don't think sword stalker and dagger stalker differ that much. They would have the same (or very similar) build, the only difference would be in equipment (unless I am wrong again, but T uses both swords and daggers depending on a location).
Do not let the label (sword vs dagger) control what you do, think pragmatically - what is more efficient in place X and what is more efficient in place Y. This will make you much stronger :-).
EDIT:
double negation elimination >.>
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Corporal - 07-15-2010 05:32 AM
CK runs 40m easy, last I checked. That is, if you can find one for sale. I haven't found any in a very long time. =[
As for caster stalker, it's fun but only PvP/WoE. Even then, there's not very many and the only one I remember spammed LSOI. It killed quite a few, but I don't see it being very useful in PvM. In WoE, the best I could see is SG cover and strip spam. Either use it on a mob before they're stripped if they didn't wear marc, or after they're stripped so they don't hit you while you move onto the next one.
Either way, I don't see a way for stalkers to use the same build for both PvM and WoE. It just doesn't work out with the drastically different stats they'd need.
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Split Ends - 07-15-2010 06:09 AM
@corporal. agreed, i've been thinking of the same thing, that pvm and woe build are extremely different if you want to be efficient. hmm btw, can u stip an enemy while frozen? cause u cant lex them when they are frozen (lol my argument makes no sense xD) btw, what's LSOI?
@irx. whoah, ive been having that mentality for quite a while. dagger vs sword, well now i can see that yea, they're almost the same and differs only in the situation. and WHOAH on the combat knife. is shecil really that hard to take down for a 100%drop be that expensive????? :O
i only tried the creep cecil and yes, even at my previous server, i'm having problems killing her so i think that answers my question xD
yea saw the dragon killers. i wish i can afford one xD im just a 500k-ish atm or maybe lower (cmon oab, drop already :D)
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Corporal - 07-15-2010 06:20 AM
You can strip enemies while you're frozen.
LSOI is Lightning Spear Of Ice - it's a ninja skill.
You can make CK via level 4 weapon quest, but it's annoying to do even with the stones available from mining. Sniper Cecil drops it, but she's hella hard to kill so it's not common for people to grab one from her.
Edit: Also, if you're killing dragons you're better off with another class. Sadly, stalkers don't do as well as you'd hope, even with the dagger.
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Aaronock - 07-15-2010 06:28 AM
Its actually not that bad but you need priest support either way for it to really be awesome and not suck your pots dry (I hate you Abyss for all the crit attacks you do). :o
there is a reason I had to make a second stalker back when I started to use mine for WoE, my dex/vit/str build was really only able to do anything while in that environment. By the way, use status dagger+equip status arrow and FSK I think will trigger arrow.
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Corporal - 07-15-2010 07:17 AM
Yeah, but I'd rather solo it instead then. =o There's a few classes that could solo it, but it would require fish either way. I think you could get away without using fish as a combo champ though, but there's not too many of those out there lol.
RE:??what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - mahawirasd - 07-15-2010 09:08 AM
Corporal Wrote:You can strip enemies while you're frozen.
wait, seriously?
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RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Aaronock - 07-15-2010 09:10 AM
Yah, that's one of the older tricks in the book man.
RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - mahawirasd - 07-15-2010 09:15 AM
while YOU or THEY are frozen??
i thought you can't do jack while frozen /spin;
pssh Aaron, i never had a rogue... should make one then, seems like fun...
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RE: what's the best build for rogues/stalkers? - Corporal - 07-15-2010 09:20 AM
They* my bad.