Nevermind

[Ultima_Pi]

When I first saw this thread (before it had.... posts), I tried to laugh, and I couldn't.

I then tried to lol, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

So I just moved on.

/useless

[Arie]

And didn't I say in the post you quoted that I did quit? o_o Pretty sure I did. Not just cause I lost faith in the admin, but the server as a whole.

If you need to tell us your quitting (outside a departure thread) your just looking for attention and insinuating people who matter care that your leaving. Its just kind of odd when people whom say they quit numerous times always stick around after they've said it for the 10th time.

However back on the subject, my point still stands. In my eyes Panda is doing nothing but making an already dire situation WORSE with this thread. Funny how someone with non-GM characters in the guilds that are dominating only encourages the situation instead of attempting to resolve it. That's just screwed up, and to me, screaming bias.

If your trying to say its funny how im encouraging the situation im not in any big guilds. And i disagree with what you think Huntress is doing because she is encouraging more WoE activity regardless of what side its on. Aswell as the two guilds Bamboo and Behemoth werent always top dogs they worked theyre ways up especially Behemoth so if Huntress was as you say looking to monopolize guilds why would she stay in them during the harder times? And also the fact that you have little to none WoE knowledge i cant blame you for reacting the way you have to this thread due to lack of ability of understanding what shes trying to accomplish with this, which you've obviously missed the point completely if it makes you angry.

I dunno about working themselves up, They are the only active WoE guilds that have been continously WoEing since LW left. How is that working your way up? They were just there for so much longer they have way more gears and cards. I have to commend Panda for trying, but this might not be the best way to go about it... What happens if Revenga quits WoE? Then there is no competition. Not trying to argue, just trying to point out the flaws in this attempt at revitalizing WoE.

[Huntress]

Believe it or not, but I created this thread with nothing but the best intentions. Someone in another thread mentionned it was too hard for smaller guilds to get started in the WoE scene, so I offered help. Had I forseen this would have brought 2 negative reviews on the server and so much fuss I wouldn't have given this a try. Anyone who knows me knows I always put the server first.

I wasn't there the WoE that bloody attacked, nor did I hear about it, nor does this have anything to do with it.

For those misinformed I don't have any characters in Behemoth, my active chars are in Bamboo and inactive alts are in various inactive guilds or unguilded.

As for the GMs and their perfectly legits characters, I'll only say that the few who do woe are spread amongst various guilds and anyone who thinks otherwise is either misinformed, speculating or spreading false rumors.

I can see this isn't working, therefor I am dropping the offer of alliance, however if a new/small guild wants to woe and needs help they can still pm me, I can help you with taxed exp and such.

For the record the sharing would have been equal, as when I give rewards for WoE I offer everyone in line things of equal value for them to choose, but most of the time I just give everyone in the line up an amount of zeny (the same for each person) and leave them to spend it as they see fit.

[Aaronock]

Let me be honest here (the long post I should have made yesterday comes ahead), you may have had GOOD intentions, however you probably went about this all the wrong way here. If Bamboo seriously wasn't allied to another guild that was dominating WoE atm, it'd be less touchy of an issue.

As a GM of the server, you know better than anyone that any move you make will always have to be made carefully. This was just a bad political move at this time to make, and if you were looking for an ally because you were unallying Behemoth then we'd be discussing a whole nother matter that the server community would have been more responsive to.

No I'm not saying unally Behemoth, but that saying it'd be best to watch the political moves a little more in the future. ;O

*End post I shoulda made yesterday*

[Former-GM-Mass]

it might seem odd to see legit chars of most GMs

Btw I'm the only GM who regularly woe, and Panda comes once in a while to nontrans, people make too many assumptios...

I don't see how we deserved bad reviews, she was doing it as a player/guild, don't mix things up.

Besides that, I saw a lot of people suggesting to the woe guilds to be "mentoring" new ones on some other thread talking about woe and I'm pretty sure I saw some people suggesting Herman to level low-level woe guilds when he offered it to socials, how is that different? He's in Behemoth, part of the "incredibly huge overpowered lololol MVP cards alliance". The only difference is that he didn't want to do it which is basically helping his own guild survive most without competition which you're accusing Huntress to do but wait, she's a player too! =o

Just don't mix things when we're players and when we're posting as GMs.
That why just a few people know who I am, things start to be like that.

Either way, someone will always whine about something anyone do, so whatever. I'm really disappointed at those 2 people who wrote bad reviews btw. *sad*

Sorry about the rant but it got on my nerves now.

[Aaronock]

I know people hate the guild when only one or two peeps act out of line.
The same goes for GM's, they haveta watch their moves too, as they are similarly seen if they do something with their legits when they do things.

Huntress does go to trans woe, even if it is not as often, she has gone and still does, I remember seeing her there a few weeks ago.

[Yuriohs]

it might seem odd to see legit chars of most GMs

Btw I'm the only GM who regularly woe, and Panda comes once in a while to nontrans, people make too many assumptios...

I don't see how we deserved bad reviews, she was doing it as a player/guild, don't mix things up.

Besides that, I saw a lot of people suggesting to the woe guilds to be "mentoring" new ones on some other thread talking about woe and I'm pretty sure I saw some people suggesting Herman to level low-level woe guilds when he offered it to socials, how is that different? He's in Behemoth, part of the "incredibly huge overpowered lololol MVP cards alliance". The only difference is that he didn't want to do it which is basically helping his own guild survive most without competition which you're accusing Huntress to do but wait, she's a player too! =o

Just don't mix things when we're players and when we're posting as GMs.
That why just a few people know who I am, things start to be like that.

Either way, someone will always whine about something anyone do, so whatever. I'm really disappointed at those 2 people who wrote bad reviews btw. *sad*

Sorry about the rant but it got on my nerves now.

He's not in Behemoth /swt and im pretty sure were talking about Trowa not herman. He was giving a mercenary service not a Bullllllllllllllcrap service.

Mass, you saw alot of people suggesting people "mentor" guilds?
So you saw narudoho suggest something and you all liked the idea right?


I went to nontrans WoE almost every week from late august to early november. I'm pretty sure, I saw nara 80% of the time, yes, panda was never really there alot like aaron said she was still "there." Indra was there 80% of the time, that wiz who wears WoV that sits down in WoE was there.

Don't tell me, GM's are spread around guilds. You might have alts in a guild BUT GUESS WHO YOU WOE WITH?

Nara's got alts in NE BUT WHO DOES SHE WOES WITH?

No, don't get this twisted this isn't Over Powered, this isn't something that is wrong. I like facing GM's and eventually rolling them in there own territory, letting them face a real offense. You don't know how good it feels to hide dodge Nara's asura, or get asura to asura me near a portal (LOL)

Before you even think about getting more alliances

Break your Ties with Behemoth before you think your doing the public a service.

[Former-GM-Mass]

Don't tell me, GM's are spread around guilds. You might have alts in a guild BUT GUESS WHO YOU WOE WITH?

Nara's got alts in NE BUT WHO DOES SHE WOES WITH?

No, don't get this twisted this isn't Over Powered, this isn't something that is wrong. I like facing GM's and eventually rolling them in there own territory, letting them face a real offense. You don't know how good it feels to hide dodge Nara's asura, or get asura to asura me near a portal (LOL)

In case you don't know, Nara was in STD with you and I never went to alde woe so I don't know if she's there. XD

Indra and that other wiz you talked about, I don't get what do they have to do with it but okay, they were there... o_o

No, don't get this twisted this isn't Over Powered, this isn't something that is wrong. I like facing GM's and eventually rolling them in there own territory, letting them face a real offense. You don't know how good it feels to hide dodge Nara's asura, or get asura to asura me near a portal (LOL)

GMs legits aren't supposed to be unkillable, full of MVP/incredibly hard to get cards etc etc. So yeah, we're humans too. Again, off topic.

[Yuriohs]

nara has/had a dancer in NE.


One, I never went to alde woe with a STD character /swt I never told anyone I was going to Nontrans WoE if I did told anyone it was on msn (if you read my chat logs on HeRO you know why)

I just wanted to point out a Wiz that sits and indra, because he's imba and the only real threat in bamboo.

Mass, My statement IS SAYING GM's are just like people dont' twist my words around. Something GM's been loving to do with me lately.

[Aaronock]

Hm...Street the only dancers in NE for the longest were Ayna, Inoke, Loveless....we haven't had any other dancers really join our ranks for a long period of time, so if Nara did have a dancer alt in our guild it must not have been for long...

I do know we have a GM legit in NE, but seriously it wasn't Nara lol.