Non-Tran WoE...

[Proxyt]

Are you... trying to start a flame war with me ._.

It's pretty much the only thing you can derive from the opening post. >>

-"large number of BS/Behe members"
-"only made it to pre-emp once"
-"friends mentioned how difficult the castle is to take"
-"very frustrating to know that I didn't stand a chance against almost anyone inside"

This time I'll assume you just didn't read it or read the wrong parts.

[Sakurato]

I walked to pre emp and sat on a bench like 4 times. I also tanked quite a few people 100% naked on a crusader with 4k hp.

I guess you should just pot faster? :D

[azurerogue]

TL,DR;

From what I get, your complaint is that Bamboo Squad + Leviathan (Behe) killed you really bad.

I would appreciate if you put that kind of effort in trans woe

Just like Nya Nya Crew does, right?

[Yuriohs]

What?!

I was doing another WoE while people were pming me telling me how insanely awesome this nontrans WoE was.

Seriously, this is something YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED! It was already being discussed that behemoth was going to go in and help bamboo it was a known thing already.

This was the premiere of a new and improved nontrans WoE this isn't what it will be , give seraph more time to organize, and I guarantee you Behe and Bamboo will be dropped, just like in trans WoE.

Meng, look at this, Bloody came back to this server, first WoE back, kicked Behemoth from pront. Nontrans is a different beast, you have different strategies, less spike damage, and from the info i've gathered more guilds.

Not only them, you have different guilds organizing themselves so they might have a chance to take the castle. I disagree with the GM's rotate plan kinda iffy on taking out ecall on a side note.

This is something you should have expected, and that you should prepare for. I was with a squad of peeps that went into nontrans WoE causing a rough of a mess and actually getting to the emp. That was just with bamboo btw. I might not have broke the emp, but we got there, with not even close to a full party (maybe 7 people?) vs around 15 bamboo. I understand thats not much of a number difference, but my force was just a mixmatch of different people, some were geared some were not.

Point is , even if your a small guild, if you come in with a good plan a good strategy nothing can intimidate you. If you REALLY feel Behe/Bamboo Overpowered nontrans woe you need to ally with people then.

From the info that I heard, the people that weren't Bamboo / Leviathan tried to do so, but wasn't able to intime.

Stop thinking this is hopeless, because it isn't, trust me this is nowhere near hopeless.

Most of you already know this, you need to organize and plan up before WoE Starts. Farm your pots, your foods and all that. Talk with other guilds take care of the threat you feel is "overpowered"

And don't think, because your a new guild you have no hope or chance in winning. All it takes, is the seizing of an opportunity , good emp breakers, a little bit of research on different guilds, and effort.

Never give up hope. Ever.

O AND BTW I'll cast my vote now.

[Snowhawk]

What?!

I was doing another WoE while people were pming me telling me how insanely awesome this nontrans WoE was.

Seriously, this is something YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED! It was already being discussed that behemoth was going to go in and help bamboo it was a known thing already.

This was the premiere of a new and improved nontrans WoE this isn't what it will be , give seraph more time to organize, and I guarantee you Behe and Bamboo will be dropped, just like in trans WoE.

Meng, look at this, Bloody came back to this server, first WoE back, kicked Behemoth from pront. Nontrans is a different beast, you have different strategies, less spike damage, and from the info i've gathered more guilds.

Not only them, you have different guilds organizing themselves so they might have a chance to take the castle. I disagree with the GM's rotate plan kinda iffy on taking out ecall on a side note.

This is something you should have expected, and that you should prepare for. I was with a squad of peeps that went into nontrans WoE causing a rough of a mess and actually getting to the emp. That was just with bamboo btw. I might not have broke the emp, but we got there, with not even close to a full party (maybe 7 people?) vs around 15 bamboo. I understand thats not much of a number difference, but my force was just a mixmatch of different people, some were geared some were not.

Point is , even if your a small guild, if you come in with a good plan a good strategy nothing can intimidate you. If you REALLY feel Behe/Bamboo Overpowered nontrans woe you need to ally with people then.

From the info that I heard, the people that weren't Bamboo / Leviathan??tried to do so, but wasn't able to intime.

Stop thinking this is hopeless, because it isn't, trust me this is nowhere near hopeless.

Most of you already know this, you need to organize and plan up before WoE Starts. Farm your pots, your foods and all that. Talk with other guilds take care of the threat you feel is "overpowered"

And don't think, because your a new guild you have no hope or chance in winning. All it takes, is the seizing of an opportunity , good emp breakers, a little bit of research on different guilds, and effort.

Never give up hope. Ever.

O AND BTW I'll cast my vote now.

I think I'm in love.

On different note. I left Behemoth cause I'm not a WoEer and I was only causing trouble. Though when I was in Behemoth we had maybe 20 or so member on during WoE ONLY >> I never see more than 5 or 6 on at a time unless there was a server wide event. Anyway my point: Behemoth doesn't have THAT many members. If you are complaining about their numbers then your guild must be incredibly tiny. I suggest you do like Yuri said and Team up with other guilds.

Also Behe has been planning this WoE since info came out about it. Maybe others should look to this example. Plan ahead and work for the goal.

[Aaronock]

Its not a surprise honestly, who has the most geared members attendance wise will basically dominate non trans just like trans.

I don't see why people expected it to be any easier...

[Bloodbane]

TL,DR;

From what I get, your complaint is that Bamboo Squad + Leviathan (Behe) killed you really bad.

I would appreciate if you put that kind of effort in trans woe

Just like Nya Nya Crew does, right?

Nya Nya is kinda dead really :s

also @ Proxit

I didnt really intend to start a flame war /swt

Just seems to me that everyone is focusing on non trans woe now and it makes me all pissy.sorry if it seemed like a flame,simply put it wasn't and i am not interested in starting one,too much hassle and drama involved.

[Kulluminatii]

I guess for some it brings a nostalgic feeling back. I only started playing RO last year, and by that time trans class were already out, so I don't really get that type of feeling from it. What I do like about non-trans is how "balanced" it feels, 1 SB won't down you (most of the time), you can't be AD'd to death, Asura is still there but it is possible to hide from it and even tank it provided you have the hp.You are right though, it being "new" is one of the main reasons so many people showed up on Sunday. Will we see that many people attending non-trans again? I doubt it, but I would be happy if I was proven wrong .

[Bloodbane]

I guess for some it brings a nostalgic feeling back. I only started playing RO last year, and by that time trans class were already out, so I don't really get that type of feeling from it. What I do like about non-trans is how "balanced" it feels, 1 SB won't down you (most of the time), you can't be AD'd to death, Asura is still there but it is possible to hide from it and even tank it provided you have the hp.You are right though, it being "new" is one of the main reasons so many people showed up on Sunday. Will we see that many people attending non-trans again? I doubt it, but I would be happy if I was proven wrong .

Man i love you so much, i just love how you always come by and explain for me things that I myself...eh...cant simply express so easily....and uh....

dude i need to learn how to seriously communicate.

IT INDEED BRINGS TONS OF NOSTALGIA!!

but something else,alot of something else much worse i cant simply put my words to express it.

[Yuriohs]

Lol give the other guilds 2 weeks to strategize and get themselves together people sent me screenshots and imo that doesn't look that bad.