Astroboi Wrote:Cheesecake Wrote:ALSO I think it has been well determined Sinx can kill things in PVP, so randomly SBing everyone does not show skill, it just shows that you reached level 99 and base your build around one move. Skill is fighting people of equal or higher skill and winning, or taking down tanks, or solo MVPing or taking down end-game bosses. Some people don't seem to think "Skill" takes skill.
What's this nonsense?
I think Cheese might have meant Soul Breaker. o_o;
Considering how he states the player "builds themselves around one skill," generally one that Soul Breaks often (or ONLY does so) has high str/int/dex and isn't built for much more than that skill.
And for the record, Cheese, people use such skills generally when threatened. You say it takes "Skill" to have skill, yet you say such a thing only because you have every first-class skill available to you at your own disposal. To me, insta-cast SNs take no more skill than a Ninja, and that's saying quite a bit.
Also, to keep things right-minded, I'd like to state that most classes will have their own OP skills or builds, and it really depends on how you build them.
The List of OP:
Ninja will use Lightning Spear of Ice/Final Strike.
Gunslinger (though rare O_o) will use Full Buster/Tracking/Desperado.
Super Novice will insta-cast/Heal/Pneuma.
Assassin Cross will use Soul Breaker/EDP.
Stalker will use Full Strip then mutilate your naked body. ( /shy; )
Sniper will use Falcon Assault.
Clown/Gypsy will use Tarot/DS/Vulcan Arrow.
Paladin will use Pressure/Shield skills/Sacrifice.
Lord Knight will use Concentration, T-HQ, AuraBlade, and BB/BS.
High Wizard will use SG/FD-LoV/JT.
Professor will use Dispell, double bolts, or steal your SP.
High Priest will use Lex Divina, Lex Aeterna, and Holy Light.
Champion will use Asura.
Creator will Acid Demo or just sick their Homun on you.
Whitesmith will use Cart Term.
The List of Skill:
Ninjas will use throwing/shadow skills.
Gunslingers will take you from distance with ASPD/Crit and good guns.
Super Novice will get melee skills and Pneuma (STR Dagger Bash-Mammo ftw)
Assassin Cross (crit/Sonic Blow build) will fight melee with katars and a Chick Hat.
Stalker will fight you without stripping you. (Hard to imagine for me, besides Sekaru who I find to be quite pro.)
Sniper will kill you with a dagger! O: lmao. jkjk. They will trap/Arrow Shower and Charge/Phantasmic Arrow.
Clown/Gyspy will use Musical Strike or beat you with a guitar/whip.
Paladin will use Holy Cross/Bash/Mag Break/Shield Charge.
Lord Knight will use Bash/Mag Break and status-skills (Like Head Crush).
High Wizard will Bolt/Icewall/Firewall/Quagmire/Fire Pillar.
Professor will.. well.. beat you with knowledge! (Battle Prof + Book + Auto-Spell).
High Priest will be battle build, smashing you up with a Stunner, using skills like Lex Aeterna, DecAgi, and Holy Light. (Maybe just bad because of Lex Divina. o_o)
Champion will obviously be full combo and rape with a VVS ele Fist.
Creator will Demo/Acid (not Acid Demo, but the two seperate skills) and not rely so heavily on their homuns. (Like Indrah who I noted to be quite pro just using Firebolt. xD)
Whitesmith will just use buffs and smack the crap out of you without Cart Term.
So, to note the differences between the two lists, I am simply stating that almost all the trans skills are pretty OP. People that actually care to look like they (or if they really do) have skill will not resort to those skills. (Exceptions for extended classes, given the fact that they can't trans but are generally able to have quite a few builds.)
Classes that take TRUE skill to win with in PvP are Baby classes and first-classes. Every other class is "complainable" to me.
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