Add WSS to Bee wing!

[Seth~]

@azurerogue obviously no woe, no god items that is logical. woe in current dominant woe guilds = no god items. Make my own/join a guild with more acceptable guild rewards - Been there done that wasted a few pots, got a shiny badge, koj kinda collapsed....yes there is other - i'd rather focus on obtaining better gears in general before i think of god items.

I thought that was clear in my previous post.

@Gojira guilds that just invite and demands woe participation then afterwards silent. That is more like the norm - yes I did leave some fast. In koj I stayed till after it was remade. After that I didnt find anything close to koj so refer to @azurerogue.

@Merellis wow being rude in your counter argument. It does not prove anything thus far.

The people who are so high up are only there because that particular brewer was in use constantly, with multiple people assisting in buffs, along with supplies so that they had consumables

I dono where you got my apparent lack of use of brewing parties, consumables. Lemme quote me for you.

For my own brewing I do buy help ingame and the rest I get from rl help

I do not see the point in providing my tactics for brewing unless you really need it.

Hell the God Items don't even give that huge of an advantage, maybe a few % here or there, though Albus already covered that.

he did apparently. So you say 4.45% jump in success is nothing. Clearly you do not brew i'd pay like 200m+ for a +10 garment[1] so i can get ***1*** luk extra. So nearly 5% jump compared to 1 luk. But why would any sound mind pay that much for such a insignificant increase - simple its a increase that would affect success aka profit - aka better gears.

Then make a 0% and save yourself the zeny.

You miss the basic argument of this thread more wss please.

VERY. EASY. TO. FARM.

yes it is easy to farm it would be more easy with bee wings 2.0 and thus have more wss to brew with - aka better.

there is no need to add WSS to Bee Wings as these items already drop at a 100% rate per kill

more wss or at alternative places that is the idea behind bee wings 2.0. Ok So you want bee wings to be removed to prevent wss in bee wings. So bee wings like provide items that is required for certain skills, why was wss not added its biased towards creators that use slim whites. More wss that is the whole point Merellis - but you can get 100% drop rate. Why are you so afraid of wss in bee wings? What are you to loose? It sounds like you are trying to prevent wss from being added for what gain? Others say it breaks the ... I say its biased to leave it out.
You say well its silly to be added since it drops from yah-dah and more dah. I say its biased to leave it out since it comparatively it uses more wss compared to other items in the bee wings. Respond to baised-ness not it drops from that one and that one and .....

About the bathory card. You said wss not only drops from bathory but lemme draw a list for you.
Demon Pungus (50%) dam hard to kill - my champ do them at sleeper (very little on that map, scary a whole map of them)
Bathory (48.5%) my stalker pawls there - it was said best place to farm wss the map does not have that many bathory sadly.
Seeker (40%) rachel sanc has even less monsters than bathory map - access quest.
Hodremlin (20%) kinda hard to kill -aka HITS harder than bathory - and lower drop - and access quest -
Punk and other custom drops is not sufficient to meet demands. Yes i know the drops has a multiplier of *3 or something do not only focus on that.
So basically not only the bathory card will be affected.?Demon Pungus?is a crappy card Seeker & Hodremlin -have lower wss drop ratecompared to bathory - have a access quest that hinders cards + either lower drop chance or the monsters is rare. So bathory card would be worst affected. card economy....marc isnt farmed unless you need it same for ed, pasana, many other cards compared to the extend that bathory is farmed - bathory card over supply is more like it. If you claim that bee wings 2.0 would be push up the bathory card price to +20mil now that is maybe a tiny bit bad. However if you claim that. oh noes you prove that wss < primarily supplied by bathory - aka you prove wss is is short supply compared to demand since farmers(own use & sell) of wss can not keep up.
***just a small post-1st draft edit***bathory map has joker(its card sells for more than 1m at least, oca small chance sadly, and a nice weapon that sells for more than 1m) whisper(drops fabric omg another creator item and the reason that i do not have to go to a specific map to farm fabric + nice card that sells for more than 1m), then there is the mini-bosses yah i use a stalker aka no kill but alchemist/creators can easily kill them and they do have nice drops. compared to verit bathory has much more attractions to sustain further farming in the map if wss where to be added in bee wings. So its flawed to say ohh noes bathory card will spike price wise. It probably will go up slightly and not go up beyond 20m-aka that would be unsustainable.

glad you do not give up.

kill bathory i do/many do more supply = fair compared to other items in bee wings.

God Items destroying chances to get in Alchemist List

its part of the game so aka accept it, i would like some, see part where i'd pay 200m+ for +10 garment[1].

just say they're too lazy to go farm the damn things and want an easy solution that doesn't require putting in any effort what so ever

We did discuss lazy. Lazy 2.0 discussion. We do farm them, more would be fair compared to other items in bee wings since it uses much more items in comparison.

This is a low rate, shit comes to you with effort.

You attack the bee wings-feels offended- Bee wings is making life easier for ppl why cause endless mindless farming of wss is not desired as you claim it is, or man up its part of the game. bee wings was most likely added to ease the pressure of farming for items that helps. However without wss it is biased since it would not be so game breaking. Since its a slight change in prices is acceptable - related to wss.

The last part you missed the part about the silly reasons why i do not woe so it doesn't apply. But to recap i do not woe for god items since its unlikely i would get any in the short-medium term. It is a LONG term project of mine - that has a MAYBE label. Since I argue i do not have the means to accomplish that. Yes I have accepted 1st spot as unbeatable for the time being.??