Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The "Coming Soon" Thread
GM-Ayu Offline
Uguu!
*****

Posts: 6,450
Threads: 485
Joined: Jan 2008
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread
A late night post about the upcoming future of WoE, and some insight to what GMs are considering:


List of WoE Changes That Are Being Tested and Considered For Release


Again, the goal of our changes is to get rid of over-farming. Even for a low rate, your farming should be limited to things that once you have it, you always have it (aka, gears.) Consumables and other maintenance/sustaining style ought to be removed, or changed to be much less time consuming. We're all adults now and no longer have the time for this.

We can't solve all WoE maintenance problems within one update, but we'll take our first step and go from there.

  • War White Potions and War Blue Potions will make a return. They will cost you 100z or less. Essentially, server will sponsor all of your HP/SP healing needs for free. Your days of weekly witched starsand hunt and BG time for war blues are over.
  • War Concentration/Awakening/Berserk Potion returns, also at near free of charge.
  • War White Potions will be buffed to be the same as a Mastela Fruit for WoE only
  • War Whites and War Blues do not count as a "Potion" for the purpose of any item/skill effects that specifically boost the healing effect of a "Potion" instead of general healing items (such as Rogue Link)
  • Newly banned items: Ghostring Card, Deviling Card, Yggdrasil Seed, Yggdrasil Berry. De-card will be offered for all items with Ghostring Card and Deviling Card with no drawback.
  • Selkie card is reworked completely: "that build" is not living past July. De-card will be offered for all items with Selkie card with no drawbacks.
  • Stunning Star Eyepatch will be buffed from 10% stun resist to 20% stun resist. De-card will be offered for all Stalactic Golem carded sunglasses/glasses, with no drawbacks.
  • Normal condensed red/yellow/white potions will be buffed to weigh 1/2/3 respectively
  • We are aiming for the removal of all skill catalyst costs in WoE such that you do not consume any items or ammos for skill usage in WoE. Bombs away!
  • Guardian Stone Repair and Barricade Repair will not cost you any stone, oridecon, elunium, steel, trunks, emveratcon, or any gemstones. Instead, they will only require a "Guardian Stone Repair Kit" and "Barricade Repair Kit" respectively. These kits will also be sold by NPC, at near no cost. However, you still need to play the corresponding "mini-game" as if you used the proper material.
  • Almost every glorious weapon will be reworked to bring all of them closer to each other. Everyone will be given a chance to exchange any glorious weapon for any other glorious weapon, at the same refine. This way, all +9 glorious gears will not be "wasted" as you can transfer it to be "the next OP +9" glorious weapon, be it for WoE or for PvM against demihumans.
  • You cannot ask to exchange glorious weapons for points or enriched oridecons. You can only exchange for another glorious weapon of the same refine.
  • Some glorious weapons are buffed, and some glorious weapons are nerfed.
  • Yes, the most asked one of all, Glorious Fist +9, is part of the nerf list. Instant-cast asura is not staying, in WoE or PvM. Go punch things while you have it before WoE2 changes arrive.
  • We admit that not all glorious weapons will be equally useful, even though they will all target a specific niche. Said niche is not going to be practical all the time in WoE situation (such as the crit katar)
  • Guild dungeons will be accessible to all guilds even if they do not own a castle. You can pay 400k to unlock ALL guild dungeons for 24 hours for you and everyone within your guild (so you can pool your resources across your guild for the 400k).
  • All chests will go through an update to catch up to 2022 standards to reward your WoE victory


Things that we already have on watchlist cause we are already aware of their problems
  • Maya Purple card vs Box of Sunlight: farming both of these suck. But if we give out free box of sunlights, then you might as well give maya purple to everyone? Do we even want Maya Purple in WoE2? In a world where you need to win multiple fights due to barriers instead of emp rush, is sinx even good?
  • Creator is obviously the power suspect because previously AD is being gated by an unfun mechanic called "insane upkeep required inbetween every WoE" so even if you have multiple creators available, your guild cannot possibly sustain multiple creators with ease in the long run. Now that you can, and with DR/GR gone, are they out of control? We'll wait and see. However, if creator turns out to be overpowered, we will not be balancing them by making their skills expensive/time consuming to use again. Rather, we'll address power of AD directly via damage edits for WoE only (similar to how Assumptio works differently in and out of WoE).
  • There's a few other classes besides Creator/skills on my watchlist, but out of respect of not to "give away secret builds", I'll just say that I acknowledge their existence from your PMs with me and I am aware of these concerns. We'll see how they do in August and go from there. I appreciate all of your willingness to share your opinions and theorycrafts on discord with me.
  • Ghostring card: got dumpstered by being banned in PvP and that's all it's good for. We'll think of redesigning this iconic miniboss card later

Things that we'll like to visit in the future (late 2022?)
  • Stunning Star Eyepatch needs to be moved out of V4P and into an easily accessible place that is not time gated
  • Adjust Food cooking ingredients list to be less ridiculous
  • Based on how free healing HP/SP potions work, consider if there should be an expansion to free consumables for WoE, especially Box of Gloom since shrooming is unbelievably boring
  • Consider looking at other BG items or glorious defensive equips: if they also need to be revisited and rebalanced accordingly- to bring them more in-line with the existing glorious gears as the standard
  • Another 2 pairs of watchlist skill: Scream and Frost Joke. They aren't necessarily overpowered in a vacuum, but they are overcentralizing in small population WoE since you are forced to deal with stun/freeze, and all your gears/builds twist in a really restrictive way that you have to handle these 2. If we want to introduce changes to break the prison of a solved pvp metagame, then being freed from these 2 skills' highly reliable stun/freeze rate should at least be considered.
  • We're also very aware that melee has the clear short end of the stick compare to ranged damage dealers (be it physical or magical). They got many fundamental problems to solve, but that is a problem we've decided to tackle later since there's already many other changes happening.


Note: heRO GMs will definitely re-evaluate any and all changes related to WoE, or add custom changes to address issues observed freely as we see fit, with no advanced warnings. We will balance the WoE2 scene as GM deems necessary.
07-12-2022, 04:27 AM
Website Find Reply


Messages In This Thread
The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 12-13-2016, 11:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Summerstream - 12-14-2016, 12:11 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bellatrix - 12-14-2016, 12:52 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 12-18-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Menace651 - 12-18-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Busse - 12-18-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 12-19-2016, 06:25 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Aaronock - 12-19-2016, 06:11 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-13-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 05-13-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-18-2017, 09:11 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Shinnzero - 05-18-2017, 09:44 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Menace651 - 05-18-2017, 02:26 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 05-18-2017, 02:57 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 05-18-2017, 03:27 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by EvolutionXI - 05-18-2017, 06:15 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 05-18-2017, 07:42 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 05-19-2017, 12:42 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-27-2017, 06:35 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 05-27-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 05-27-2017, 08:52 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 05-28-2017, 03:14 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Shinnzero - 06-01-2017, 08:13 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 06-01-2017, 08:29 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by emirusan07 - 06-01-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 06-01-2017, 09:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Menace651 - 06-02-2017, 01:25 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 06-02-2017, 08:18 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Spire - 06-02-2017, 08:23 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 06-02-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 06-04-2017, 04:40 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Shinnzero - 06-04-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Millia - 06-04-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 06-04-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Rahice - 06-04-2017, 03:16 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 06-04-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Shinnzero - 06-05-2017, 02:58 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 07-13-2017, 12:26 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 07-13-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 07-13-2017, 04:08 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 07-18-2017, 07:57 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by hachigatsu30 - 07-18-2017, 08:06 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 07-18-2017, 08:29 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-05-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 08-05-2017, 02:21 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-05-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-10-2017, 04:05 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-10-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-15-2017, 05:36 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 09-16-2017, 06:14 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 11-01-2017, 11:57 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 11-01-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Namine - 11-01-2017, 05:37 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Shinnzero - 11-01-2017, 08:02 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Rei Ayanami 18 - 11-06-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 12-07-2017, 02:05 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 12-17-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-08-2018, 04:34 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 01-08-2018, 04:49 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-09-2018, 09:42 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-30-2018, 01:00 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Menace651 - 02-03-2018, 10:07 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 01-30-2018, 02:17 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by illbeatinu - 01-31-2018, 04:01 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 02-03-2018, 12:10 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 02-03-2018, 06:31 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 02-03-2018, 10:35 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-03-2018, 05:19 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Aaronock - 02-03-2018, 08:50 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-05-2018, 02:39 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 02-08-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Kiwis - 02-09-2018, 05:26 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Valerie12345 - 02-10-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 02-12-2018, 10:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 02-13-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 02-14-2018, 02:04 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-14-2018, 05:16 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-18-2018, 11:39 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 02-21-2018, 05:49 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-21-2018, 06:50 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 02-21-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Aaronock - 02-21-2018, 11:58 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-22-2018, 01:55 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-06-2018, 02:39 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-31-2018, 07:36 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by whitedraw - 04-01-2018, 09:33 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by sheam - 04-02-2018, 10:27 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 04-24-2018, 12:56 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-14-2018, 02:09 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Kiwis - 05-17-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-17-2018, 12:26 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Kiwis - 05-17-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-17-2018, 01:55 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 06-25-2018, 07:13 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-01-2018, 07:51 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 08-03-2018, 02:11 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-18-2018, 09:28 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Kiwis - 08-21-2018, 08:04 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-12-2018, 01:17 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 09-13-2018, 02:49 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by whitedraw - 09-14-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 09-18-2018, 01:13 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-22-2018, 10:43 AM
October ~10, 2018 - by GM-Ciar - 10-07-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 10-11-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 10-11-2018, 01:18 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 12-19-2018, 02:56 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 12-23-2018, 11:05 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-20-2019, 01:00 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 01-27-2019, 02:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 02-24-2019, 10:26 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-06-2019, 03:36 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-15-2019, 01:56 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-16-2019, 08:13 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by raphael.cruger - 03-20-2019, 05:13 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 03-27-2019, 01:42 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 03-27-2019, 06:30 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 06-08-2019, 11:20 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 06-09-2019, 04:19 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 07-05-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 07-06-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by Bakorzero - 07-06-2019, 11:43 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 08-02-2019, 01:02 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 08-25-2019, 02:57 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 08-27-2019, 06:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-11-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 09-19-2019, 01:15 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 09-20-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 12-11-2019, 02:51 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 02-04-2020, 03:29 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 05-19-2020, 05:12 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 05-19-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 06-02-2020, 01:14 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 07-28-2020, 03:28 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 09-09-2020, 02:34 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 09-24-2020, 07:21 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 10-11-2020, 03:08 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 10-25-2020, 11:10 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by The Roger - 10-26-2020, 09:47 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ciar - 10-28-2020, 05:41 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-04-2021, 07:38 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 05-08-2021, 02:59 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 05-25-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 10-30-2021, 02:35 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 06-26-2022, 01:48 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 07-12-2022, 04:27 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 07-27-2022, 05:33 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 08-24-2022, 05:11 AM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 01-07-2023, 08:59 PM
RE: The "Coming Soon" Thread - by GM-Ayu - 08-07-2023, 05:52 AM

Forum Jump: