azurerogue Wrote:I got my facts from running a calculator with the stats you gave (upgraded slightly to represent a 99/70 Sniper) vs a 99/70 190 ASPD Sniper.??So, yes, crits were factored into the DPS results it gave.??
I leveled on Geographers for a while.
With no / low crit I did 430 damage/hit
Crits did 750 damage
Then I equipped Morrigane set and was doing 450 damage/hits
Crits did 822, and were a lot more common (32% as opposed to 9%).
This is a free hit every 3 hits, that is guaranteed to touch target, and that can trigger falcon. My aspd barely lowered (from removing pantie+undershirt, as Morrigane takes garment slot).
I also doubt that a Sniper can 1) so easily reach 190 aspd and 2) that a falconer would have 10 aspd less.
Even 100 DEX less is less than 5 ASPD difference (because awakening potion is counted after). Also with nearly 100 total AGI, I attain 171 aspd only. If I can reach 183 aspd as a DEX Sniper it will be good.
I tried RMS, non-geared Sniper with 99 base DEX and AGI, with only self-buffs (including True Sight). Can reach 182 aspd.
Total final stats:
1+9 STR
99+29 AGI
1+8 VIT (and yes, screw resistance, we're trying to compare DPS)
2+10 INT
99+43 DEX
25+13 LUK
182 aspd with awakening
281 Hit, 232+4 flee
22% critical chance
13.67% Falcon chance
900 dmg per time falcon goes off
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and the other build
1+9 STR
91+28 AGI
4+8 VIT
56+10 INT
8+32 DEX
90+13 LUK (no Gloria counted)
175 aspd with awakening
179 hit, 223+11 flee
41% critical chance
35.33% chance of Falcon going off
1070 dmg per time falcon goes off
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Let's compare the non-geared builds.
182 aspd is 0.36 second per hit. Roughly 3 hits per second.
175 aspd is 0.50 second per hit. Exactly 2 hits per second.
First build Falcon goes off once per 7.3 hits
Second build Falcon goes off once per 2.8 hits
Second build's Falcon is 18.8% stronger per time it goes off also.
Let's say they're both using Orc Archer Bow with Steel Arrows (which the calc doesn't count, but it wouldn't be fair to count them unarmed, as much as its fair to count them without the rest of the gear). This is 120+40 attack and does +50% of all damage.
First build's attack= 347+160 = 507 *1.5 = 760
Second build's attack = 78+160 = 238 *1.5 = 357
Let's compare how they do vs a 100,000 HP enemy with 0 Def and 0 Vit:
First build: 760 dmg hit + 123.8 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering (damage divided by 7.3 to count per hit). It would go down in 113.14 hits. Or 40.8 seconds.
Second build: 357 dmg hit + 382.1 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering (damage divided by 2.8 to count per hit). It would go down in 135.30 hits. Or 70.1 seconds. Might be a bit lower because of damage variability with low DEX, though 40% crit rate ensures more than half the hits (counting Falcon) do max damage.
Let's compare on that same enemy with 20 Def and 20 Vit and 0 Luk (crit shield factor):
First build: 760 dmg hit when crit (22% of time) 588 when not crit (78% of time) + 123.8 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering. It would do average bow hits of 625.8. It would go down in 133.4 hits. Or 48.1 seconds.
Second build: 357 dmg/hit when crit (41% of time) 265 when not crit (59% of time) + 382.1 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering. It would do average bow hits of 302.72. It would go down in 146.0 hits. Or 73 seconds.
Let's compare on that same enemy with 40 Def, 40 Vit and 40 Luk (-8% crit shield):
First build: 760 dmg hit when crit (14% of time) 416 dmg when not crit (86% of time) + 123.8 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering (notice Falcon dmg is always constant while bow hits lower). It would do average bow hits of 464.1. It would go down in 170 hits. Or 61 seconds.
Second build: 357 dmg/hit when crit (33% of time) 174.2 when not crit (67% of the time) + 382.1 dmg/hit from Falcon triggering. It would do average bow hits of 234.5. It would go down in 162 hits. Or 81 seconds.
Keep in mind Morrigane set would increase both Falcon rate and crit rate. I'm not sure what equipment the DEX/AGI build would wear however, which is why I didn't include equips other than weapon.
The calculations are not based on real testing, and may not be 100% accurate. In theory they are mostly accurate (did not account for damage variability of lower DEX). Depending on the equipment of either party, the pure DEX or the Falconer may get an advantage.
If you know of the pure DEX equipment, then tell me, I will be able to do a more accurate comparison.
In this analysis, not included as buffs are:
AGI Up, Blessing, Gloria, Manus Impositio, any elemental advantage, any enemy skills like KE or defender. Obviously not Pneuma.
Personally though, while I can see a pure Luk Falconer would be fun to play, I would most likely do a Hybrid with higher DEX (80 total), lower INT (20 or 30 total) and lower LUK (60-80 total).
The weakness of a Pure Falconer is that Double Strafe-spamming is not a viable strategy to kill. Falcon Assault is something else though, and they have more SP and SP regen to do it.
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