Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE

[Master Chief]

@Silv - Creators are meant to do better with pots so i dont think that doesnt really prove much and if you dont give a damn about the argument then please dont come in here all annoyed if you really dont care(wich seems to me atm you dont)

And honestly, the text i put in bold... I find that insulting and childish(more insulting then childish)... so like i said earlier please if you dont really care about it dont come in like this.

blahblahblah fish causes imbalance in pvp blahblah makes monk to strong blahblah

people still arguing about this yay

-Ohh yeah nemo restores monks full sp, but they also restore full hp of those who survived the asura WOOOOO look at both side of the medal please

[silvanel]

Ok then what is it gonna be next? once fish will be out of woe? Ban white pot from swordy and alchemist cause they have a pot advantage over others?

[Nagi]

Ok then what is it gonna be next? once fish will be out of woe? Ban white pot from swordy and alchemist cause they have a pot advantage over others?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

You are making a logical error. One event happening does not let you rationalize the occurrence of a related event.

Your 'what is it gonna be next logic' holds no ground, so please, stop coming into this discussion refusing to read and talk about the already established conversation, spewing your anger all over this like some tamper-tantrum ridden child.

Please be respectful of the opinions of the people who have posted here, and make your opinions grounded somewhere in the realm of rationality.

[silvanel]

Please check the 23 page long fish conversation we had a few month ago before asking others some nonsense, I dont see where im disrespectfull to anyone in my previous posts. Just plain tired of the same argument coming again and again and again.

cmon dont tell me its imbalanced ... 10 SEC STUN status...

freeze and stone curse gets you killed by asura too.

[Nagi]

Please check the 23 page long fish conversation we had a few month ago before asking others some nonsense,

I didn't bring up any nonsense. My examples used basic math and percentages, that is, if you cared to read them a few pages back.

I dont see where im disrespectfull to anyone in my previous posts. Just plain tired of the same argument coming again and again and again.

you posted a classic 'too long; didn't read' anger post that didn't have a thing to do with the current flow of the thread. I don't care if you are tired of this being discussed, even science is scrutinized constantly and under intense peer review from all sides. This is how the world works.

cmon dont tell me its imbalanced ... 10 SEC STUN status...

as I've said before, the chance of backlash from fish is much to low for something that is a farmable ygg berry. my example, for recap's sake, was soul burn's 30% fail rate against a fish's MUCH lower than 30% fail rate. Besides, many players have put forth their examples of such strategy-breaking happenings that arise from fish use.

freeze and stone curse gets you killed by asura too.

Please just go read the rest of this thread. As for me, I'm going to get this back on topic.

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@Aaronock

Yes, yggs weigh more, and just from looking at the poll, we can see that the majority of people want to see fish disabled, certainly because that would require less work for the GMs. Balancing fish status percentages seems too daunting a task for such cheap an item, because at the end of the day, they are still farmable.

This is why I believe the majority leans towards a full on disable.

[GM-Pandora]

Please keep it clean everyone and try to keep some perspective too.

This isn't the first discussion on fish, sadly probably not the last. Your GM team is open to ideas, suggestions or any constructive feedback for that matter. But in the end, we are the ones who will decide what's best for the server, so please don't try to impose your views on others.

On a side note, Polls are very useful to gather opinion, but they cannot be considered 100% relevant proof of the server's opinion, to give you an example, the latest monthly patch had over 2000 downloads on 1 mirror, 52 people vote in this poll, see what I mean? In addition, this is a private poll, I suggest public poll next time, which ensures that people don't create fake accounts or use their multiple accounts to vote.

[Sekaru]

Sigh the main issue with me and fish is simply the fact that you get oca's from it wich is just wrong... cards are like the hardest thing to get in this game and now by sitting at a spot clicking you have a chance to get ANY CARD thats dropped by an oca... and theres some pretty rare cards in there.... I think thats just excuse my brutality but its stupid.. when I first came to HeRo I went through everysingle card the long way hunting that .03% drop and it took forever and I still don't have nearly every card I wanted because after 2 months I got tired of hunting same thing lol (I've been here for about 2 years and still haven't gotten anywhere near the number of cards I should've cause of luck) and sure people can say you could just farm mvps for oca's... yeah well I prefer people attempting to massively farm mvps then just anyone sitting and clicking and getting every card I wanted + some ultra rare ones.. because in the end if you can farm mvp's for oca's especially with the new more beefed mvps then its cause you have talent and its not just luck.... sigh please just take away oca's from that spot.. it tottaly devalues the work older players did all this time...

[GM-Pandora]

Sigh the main issue with me and fish is simply the fact that you get oca's from it wich is just wrong...

Key word in that first sentence is "me", you're the only one who even mentioned oca in this thread. The topic reads "Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE", make a new one if its such a big issue to you dear.

Edit (but I actually wish you didn't since we already have enough stuff to handle already >_< )

[Nagi]

Sigh the main issue with me and fish is simply the fact that you get oca's from it wich is just wrong...

Key word in that first sentence is "me", you're the only one who even mentioned oca in this thread. The topic reads "Regarding fish/pot spamming in WoE", make a new one if its such a big issue to you dear.

Very true. Besides, OCAs do not contain MvP cards, just normal monster and up to mini bosses.

Also, the chance to get an OCA is still really slim, coming in at about 3 OCAs per 6 hours of fishing or so ><

I find no issue with fishing up OCAs.

[Master Chief]

Actually... 3 OCA in 6 hours is alrdy too much... fishing spot takes out the rarity of the OCA's...

But my point is more about the disabling the fish in WoE...

freeze and stone curse gets you killed by asura too.

Um... if the Monk/Champion was to asura you while your frozen, stone cursed, or not... he would still deal you the same damage...

And seriously... from all the WoE's ive seen(And past month ive only missed 1)... the fish doesnt seem to hurt the player using it more then it helping him/her... and if you havnt noticed all you see is emp breaking... when did you see a guild hold a castle in the last month...

Atleast change it for 1-2 month to see if there is a change by taking out fish for WoE