okay lets try this again...

[Ngjoko]

Well, shady, i understand you're upset but like the leader said, they are not obligated to help you even if you are their guildy. Also, they hardly know you, so getting a few endows is good enough IMO.

Truth be told, i'm here for 3 months and i didn't receive any help from anyone since i know noone yet until i started Pirateman 1 week ago, no zeny, no endows, no gears, well except for some free buffs and heals from some nice acolytes or priests passing by and the free coal from a nice guy, but he just wouldn't let me pay for them. Both Pirateman and Ivy are still only level 60+ with BASIC gears, or a level 4 sword i bought from vendors at a ridiculous price, and i don't even have half a million yet even if all my character's zeny adds up together.

So anyway, i'd never joined any guilds, yes even if the indonesian guild is recruiting, i simply ignored it since personally i'm pretty anti social, i just use the main chat for some Q and As, and it's really helpful mentally.

All in all, make more friends on main instead of joining guilds, you never know if someone is willing to party with you or help you a bit on leveling. I'm sure the players that use main most of the time are friendly enough and might be willing to help you out a bit. Just try it.

PS: try to change the words of your choice and be more humble when asking for help, if you're ignored, fine, find another alternative. Also red is not exactly a friendly color.

[Dragonil]

Shad0wL1nk Wrote:i come asking for help not for everyone to do my job for me....

Shad0wL1nk Wrote:1. i have no zeny as it is nor was i offered even a little to help me at least get back and forth between payon and moscovia for the stupid ass endow that wore of in like 30 mins
2.i would type in the chat and nearly half the time i went unanswered and ignored for no f**** reason!!!Mad GRRR SO INFURIATING!!!!
3. i had basic equips and nothing to help me out with leveling and not even a priest to come help

Sure you just wanted help.

[Shad0wL1nk]

Ngjoko Wrote:Well, shady, i understand you're upset but like the leader said, they are not obligated to help you even if you are their guildy. Also, they hardly know you, so getting a few endows is good enough IMO.

Truth be told, i'm here for 3 months and i didn't receive any help from anyone since i know noone yet until i started Pirateman 1 week ago, no zeny, no endows, no gears, well except for some free buffs and heals from some nice acolytes or priests passing by and the free coal from a nice guy, but he just wouldn't let me pay for them. Both Pirateman and Ivy are still only level 60+ with BASIC gears, or a level 4 sword i bought from vendors at a ridiculous price, and i don't even have half a million yet even if all my character's zeny adds up together.

So anyway, i'd never joined any guilds, yes even if the indonesian guild is recruiting, i simply ignored it since personally i'm pretty anti social, i just use the main chat for some Q and As, and it's really helpful mentally.

All in all, make more friends on main instead of joining guilds, you never know if someone is willing to party with you or help you a bit on leveling. I'm sure the players that use main most of the time are friendly enough and might be willing to help you out a bit. Just try it.

PS: try to change the words of your choice and be more humble when asking for help, if you're ignored, fine, find another alternative. Also red is not exactly a friendly color.

lol dude thank you i perfectly understand you ill try it you way and ill be more patient... and im sorry for sounding like an ass on the forums oh btw hows this color?

[Ngjoko]

A bit emo, but i like it.

[Neokiller]

DUDE........ . i was the one who endowed u. I took the time and effort to learn how to endow (sounds stupid, but i never touched a sage before [Thanks mystic for helping me with the endow]), i was even WAITING for you to call out "ENDOW ME PLEASE". I thought u were a good guildmate. And im sorry i also have a life, i can't stay on Ragnarok whenever your online. We help out whenever we can or feel like it. don't be so selfish, we have a life too. (unlike my brother, hes a pure addict with no life, hes just a shell. just)

[Seth~]

On this whole topic of helping newbies. I when I joined we (Real life friends) partied in our own guild. After a few weeks I was invited to the old Louyang Guild (budda's) cause they knew I was active apparently. Then at times I was supper leveled, ignored, and had some random chats. Leveling newbies is tedious IMO due to most leaving the guild or server after a while. But its fun with RL friends, maybe drag some friends to the server to help you in low level parties.

[Shad0wL1nk]

Neokiller Wrote:DUDE........ . i was the one who endowed u. I took the time and effort to learn how to endow (sounds stupid, but i never touched a sage before?????? [Thanks mystic for helping me with the endow]), i was even WAITING for you to call out "ENDOW ME PLEASE". I thought u were a good guildmate. And im sorry i also have a life, i can't stay on Ragnarok whenever your online. We help out whenever we can or feel like it. don't be so selfish, we have a life too. (unlike my brother, hes a pure addict with no life, hes just a shell. just)

yes i never singled you out your the reason i had that 1 out of 2 endows the whole time i was in ur guild... and i thank you for it but i did call out and i did say i needed another endow and i KNOW YOU ALL HAVES LIVES as do i but your not the guild are you? i do thank you though you were awesome staying black then cause im not emo XD

[Ngjoko]

My emo color is purple, but too lazy to change colour all the time, so i'm sticking to black. My characters are all dressed in dark colors and i'm with the dark alliegeance. I'm pretty emo IRL, just don't dress or use make up like them. =P

[Shad0wL1nk]

hahaahaaha i hear ya im kinda the same way but i look like a prep =/

[Kittie]

i wish you good luck getting into a nice guild

i'd say, drop the expectations you get/had from being in a guild and just try to have fun. Being in a guild doesnt mean people should give you stuff or should help you lvl etc, ofc every guild is different and i don't know you and how you ask for help but i can say you pacience is the key to alot of things :3

Also its just like Aaronock said already, you have to gain people their trust. I don't think any guild will welcome their newbies with; "heey welcome in the guild! here is a +10 valk shield and 10 mil zeny ;D" (atleast i havn;t met a guild like that before x'D)

this is not meant as a flame or anything, hope you get that :3